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because oh there it is there it is the impression that there was an infinite 
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source of energy might have been not necessarily what people wanted to do at 
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the time what the da is describing is this fundamental unified field this is 
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what Einstein described the curvature of SpaceTime which he didn't say what SpaceTime is made of because we're all 
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entangled through this field there is on our planet currently and animals that are Eternal how does an atom spin right 
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where is the energy source that that keeps all atoms spinning all electrons moving where is that where does that 
0:38 
come from dude I can calculate how fast the universe is thinking do not despair 
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there is incredible possibilities coming your way everything is there for us to 
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make this leap to make this step our kids will see an amazing world evolve 
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[Music] Nasim hermine is a certified genius 
1:05 
astrophysicist Quantum physicist and he's here to set the record straight about the actual nature of the cosmos 
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and what was really beautiful about this podcast is we were able to bridge in some Concepts from ancient Daoism from 
1:21 
cabalistic traditions and see how they interface with the most cuttingedge 
1:28 
equations that are coming out of quantum physics and what we found was this beautiful synthesis of ancient wisdom 
1:35 
and the most recent scientific discoveries things like at the center of the sun is a black hole and the light 
1:42 
that emerges is also originating from this void that's pulling in the energy 
1:49 
and coming out the cosmic battery that can be represented by the yin-yang symbol of light and dark and how this 
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interplay of light and dark works in the cosmos and then how this energy this 
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Boundless Energy of the force of that thing the da that's older than God that 
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is the substrate of all Unicity how this interacts in the field of articulation 
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not only of planetary structures Galactic structures but of our own personal structure what is the energy 
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that is at the core of every atom we've been in this search for perpetual motion 
2:26 
machines but guess what atoms are already perpetual motion machines they're constantly moving where is the 
2:34 
source of that energy and Nasim would say that the source of that energy is the source of all energy source 
2:41 
itself this podcast is mind expanding beyond belief and it is with absolute 
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great pleasure that I share not only all of this information about the cosmos but 
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a genuine message of Hope in these times of chaos and turbul an for where 
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humanity is headed and why it's going to be headed in a positive direction so it 
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is with great Delight I share this podcast with Nassim harmine Nasim hey 
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hey I don't know if I've ever been so excited to talk to somebody on a podcast 
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because in following your work and studying and preparing for this show I realize how little I actually know about 
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the universe thank you well that's the state of the world in general so don't feel bad yeah 
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it's it's really remarkable how much knowledge is at the Forefront that you've been able to access and how 
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little that has been translated into the general Layman understanding of how 
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everything was everyone just generally accepts okay in the beginning there was a big bang all all light compressed to 
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the size of uh you know the tip of your finger and then boom here we are billions of times smaller than the tip 
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of your finger long size object yeah right right that always made sense to me 
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too I was like why the why the tip of your finger why wouldn't it be just a single single micro Point yeah 
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Singularity that's that's what the theory says yeah um and and I think it's significant actually that that scale the 
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plon scale is a very significant important scale that's overlooked in physics so explain the plunk scale so 
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for people who don't understand okay well I would would have to start with quantum mechanics uhhuh 
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and I think it's important for people to understand quantum mechanics better because I there's a part of quantum 
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mechanics that's very much publicized that has to do with the Copenhagen interpretation and how you know an 
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observer or observation has to happen before the material world materialize in 
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what it is and all this and so this is the observer effect where they showed that if you're looking for particles 
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you'll see particles if you're looking for waves you'll see waves which then allowed people to say the reality is 
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dependent upon the observer's intention that's right and that interpretation is known as the Copenhagen interpretation 
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it comes from very famous conference that occurred there and this 
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interpretation I believe is completely incorrect it's completely false wow all 
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right shots fired right of the gay okay it's really important for people to know 
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and actually students in physics should be thought that um for some reason they're not um 
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that there's alternative views that were given by very serious people Deb being 
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one and bom and that give all the correct answers with a very mechanical 
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fluid dynamics view of the of of the effect um and in that case you don't 
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have to invent really you know esoteric um uh 
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ungrounded uh ideas that somehow particles can be waves and 
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particles at the same time and it it basically the only difference in the interpretation is to show that actually 
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when a particle moves it's moving in a field so when it moves it makes waves 
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just like a boat on the ocean so it's a particle in a wave yes but not in some 
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esoteric way it's just when it moves it makes waves in the field because it's 
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not in a field-free environment space time space is a field of energy and 
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actually I demonstrate very clearly that it is the field of energy that makes the 
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particle in the first place so of course okay so we can get into the double St 
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experiment which is how this interpretation occurred but I'm going to have to back 
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up to the foundation of mechanic of quantum mechanics I'm I'll let you I'll let you drive the ship 
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here so if we want to talk about the Double SL experiment we can do that I'm just going to give it quick 
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interpretation it's called pilot wave theory and it it just shows that um okay 
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so so the experiment is like you got one slit and you're shooting electrons or 
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photons at this slit and you have a detector on the back right and you expect on the detector you're going to 
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get Dot for each particle that hits the back detector and the ones that hit uh in 
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front of it won't be detected right the one that don't go through the slit but then you put two slits and you'd expect 
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that you'd get some particles going through the one slit and some particle going through the second slit and you 
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should have like dots on the backboard right on both side on both slids but 
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instead you get an interference pattern okay and that was weird because it's 
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like what's interfering with the particle so then it's like oh the particle is like becoming two particles 
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going through both slits and interfering with itself and like all this like I 
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don't know what they were smoking but it wasn't the good stuff and and it's like 
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you you you know all of a sudden what is the good stuff well yeah that's another 
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story you know we just got back from burning man so that gives somebody an idea that the team may know what the 
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good stuff is I don't know but I I'm saying like it's a very 
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strange interpretation and then of course scientists at the time tried to 
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like measure exactly which slit did the particle go through and how is it that 
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it's interfering with itself and when they try to put a measurement instrument there um they realize that when they put 
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it there all of a sudden they get dots on the backboard so they it changes the result so then the like the 
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interpretation is oh my god when we try to measure it which we have to make the 
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distinction that doesn't mean there's an conscious observation could be a measurement from a device that's just 
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tied to a computer nobody's looking right but when you we try to measure it we get a different result M and this led 
Foundations of Quantum Mechanics
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to a series of equations that describe this collapse of the wave function of 
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the quantum wave function that makes up particles but um but if you take the 
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analogy of the boat on the ocean and when the particle is 
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moving um it makes waves well then when you have one slit you get the dot 
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because only the goat the boat goes through when you get I'm saying this Loosely right just so we understand like 
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it's more in depth than that but um and if you look up pilot wave theory you'll 
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get all the information but but if you uh have two slids then the waves that 
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the that that the particle made go through the second slit and interfere 
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with it with the particle and produce an interference pattern and then if you put 
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an object to measure what's going on there if you add an a measuring object that object is 
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Making Waves in the field MH and it's cancelling the waves that the particle 
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is makingh and now you get a third result but it's not some esoteric thing 
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that like there's an observation and it's changing it's just a fact that 
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everything is baiting in a fundamental field of energy that interacts with all 
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things that connects all things and so although the spiritual people might say 
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oh but you're taking away this possibility that Consciousness is involved and I'm saying no no first of 
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all in the standard model nothing there's no equations there that says 
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anything about Consciousness it's it's not true that it predicts Consciousness 
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it in the standard model it just says that the waveform is going to collapse into a random thing like it you know 
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could be anything it's it's not tied to Consciousness in the equations right 
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it's just tied to a measurement um but more importantly when you see it as 
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pilot wave theory sees it I discover pilot wave theory independently in my 
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van in the '90s thinking I had figured it out and then I real realiz that debug 
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did it like long before me and and so now you have something I think that's 
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much more profound you have something that says that um everything is 
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connected through a fundamental field MH and so like let's jump back because this 
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is a part of quantum mechanics that is very specific let jump back to the start 
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of quantum mechanics and understand something really important there and this is 
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something like if there's physics students listening right now they got to listen really closely here because this 
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is the part of their course that they will not be thought okay and it's really 
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critical so how did quantum mechanics start it started with 
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Max plun trying to make a better light bulb he was commissioned by you know a 
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group of um different organizations that were trying to improve on the light bulb 
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because the light bulbs didn't last very long then the filament kept on burning out and all this and so Marx um looked 
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at it in detail and and tried to figure out the thermodynamics of this element 
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that emits Photon emits electromagnetic fields when you heat it up 
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right so he was looking at it and the equations of the time were saying 
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something really weird they were saying that like the element should emit infinite amount of ultraviolet radiation 
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and that's not what we were measuring in laboratory so it was called the ultraviolet catastrophe so he tried to 
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resolve it and in order for the equation to work it's 
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called Plank's law um he had to add a 
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little component a little free parameter in some ways that he call um H bar that 
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he he well no actually it was H at the time right eventually Paul 
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dur modified it showed that it was an angular momentum so it was H over 2 pi 
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and that became H bar nobody understands that but we'll 
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continue it's okay yeah we'll allow that yeah just just so people know it's 
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actually uh an action of an of a angular momentum it's a little spinner you could 
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think of it that way and what it did is that in the equation it basically said 
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that like the electromagnetic field that's radiating from the element when 
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you heat up something is actually coming out in 
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packets little Spinners like pulses yeah like pulses packets it wasn't continuous 
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right like Quantas of energy which were described by H or H 
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bar later and that packet of energy eventually Einstein took that and said 
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hey you know I can explain the photo electric effect with that you know um so 
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that like the little packets of energy are hit hitting electrons and trowing electrons out and semiconductors and 
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that is what makes you know like a like Photo cells that we use for you know um 
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solar panels mhm and he got the Nobel price for that 
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calling the little packets photons and that's where the concept of photons come 
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from from okay you see so a lot of people don't realize 
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actually Einstein didn't get the Nobel Prize for relativity he got no the Nobel 
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Prize for contributing to the start of quantum mechanics um and so you know when you 
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looked at this equation pl's law it said that the Universe when it 
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radiates electromagnetically it's packets of energy that it's 
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radiating and it's absorbing packet of energy the equation is describing an 
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oscillator okay that is the foundation of quantum mechanics is the description 
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of an oscillator so you could think of it as a a little proton like the nuclear 
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of an atom or an atom being an oscillator right like and the problem is 
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that okay so so listen to this this is remarkable so when it's taught to 
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students um instead of telling the student visualize a little spinner A 
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little top spinning that's an oscillator right they're told to visualize a spring 
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with the weight on the end they're mathematically um mappable one to the 
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other so it's it's mathematically the same except that if you're thinking the 
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universe is making Springs with weights on the end you don't have the correct 
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image in your head of what you're actually describing in your equation 
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right and these these type of analogies are very destructive to our capacity to 
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actually understand the universe because we start you know making models in our 
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head that don't have anything to do with reality mhm right the universe is 
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clearly not doing Springs with weights on the end right like a little spring 
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that's oscillating up and down like this right and that's like critical that the 
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students get the right visual we're talking about something that's spinning MH I mean Springs with weights on the 
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end are made by the universe after they've made the humans that makes the springs and the weight okay but if 
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you're trying to understand the universe then you got to have the right image in your mind so if I'm I'm trying to I'm 
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trying to visualize this and I think you know I'm I'm picking up what I was able to understand from an interview that I 
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watched you do and basically what you're saying is this pulsing oscillating 
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pattern is that we're creating we're creating a new projection of reality so 
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to speak in every plunk second which is like the smallest measurement of time possible it's the it's the interval 
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between these pulses exactly there's a timing thing that's happening boom boom boom boom but so so fast and's a 
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heartbeat yeah and it's and it's and it's almost infinim measured and it's 
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creating reality in every in every plunk second exactly and and and then as you 
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go up in scale that timing slows down right because it takes longer for a 
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proton to make us a turn than to a plonk which is billions of times smaller so a 
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plonk is a is like a quark is or smaller than a quk smaller than a quark okay so 
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it's the fundamental it's the very basic unit that the irreducible unit is is 
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like a plunk it might be reducible to sub plunk oh boy but the speed of light 
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limits so so you could say that maybe it's the fundamental pixel 
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for our size Universe okay but that but it may go all the way down infinitely 
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yes because because past the Event Horizon of a black hole you have it's 
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called trans planking problems meaning you have things that would go faster 
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than I mean lots of people have trans planking problems let's just let's just be that can 
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happen but that's a whole other story 
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um I it's really important you understand I'm talking about this in a 
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very rigorous way yes it's not philosophy okay it it would be 
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philosophy if I didn't have equations to support what I'm saying so people philosophy comes after yes well actually 
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philosophy should come first and then the equations explain and then you do the equation and that's lost in physics 
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currently most physicist just learn to resolve equation there's a famous St 
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saying by finan you know shut up and calculate don't ask question just 
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they're just doing math and math can run you right straight 
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into a wall right like string theory is a good example of it and and and it you 
21:21 
have to have fundamental concept of what you're trying to solve otherwise your 
21:27 
equations can tell you anything you want right and and the only way you can 
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verify that your equations are telling you the right thing is when you go to 
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experiments and confirm that the equation is giving you the right 
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result right there's no experiment in string theory for instance that can confirm anything because the equations 
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output really like almost infinite amount of possibilities 
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right 10 to the 500 different compactification of strings that like it it tells you that like they could be one 
Zero Point Energy
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correct answer in 10 to the 500 answers right like it's the largest number in 
22:12 
physics but in anyway let's not get off track 
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right let me let me let me I want to do I want to do one thing here because we're going to get deep in the weeds and I also want to share with people that 
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you have a paper that you recently published corre that has an unreal amount of equations and grounding to 
22:32 
everything that you're saying right so and I want to you know help help you and help everybody make this clear that this 
22:37 
is not just you casually looking at this like an armchair physicist you're actually deep in there figuring it out 
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and I'm working with physicists from the biggest schools in Europe and you know 
22:50 
and and don't believe the goofy stuff on Reddit you know that my papers are not 
22:56 
peer reviewed and all this that is false of course of course right anybody who 
23:02 
challenges the the dogma of the time is going to be ultimately attacked this 
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this occurs in every different every different academic you know every 
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different Academic School it's just the it's the nature of it right and every large Discovery um you know were very 
23:20 
fundamentally attacked um but I'm and and I don't say this in 
23:27 
arrogance it's just the way it is and and it's analytical so you can actually 
23:33 
if you got enough um you know you don't need that much math to follow these 
23:38 
equations in that paper um if you're a good engineer and so on you can follow 
23:44 
this equation if you're student of physics you can follow these equations and you and and and the annex are there 
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to help we try to write it in the most you know in the most easy way to absorb 
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for um scientific you know um person uh which some math but we tried to write it 
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as well historically so we actually spend quite a bit of time in the first section in describing historically this 
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oscillator that was described by Max Blanc putting back the spinner instead 
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of the spring right and you know solving those equations you were to yeah so I 
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want to so you were you were saying that it starts with philosophy in some way in some idea and one thing about the 
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creation of the universe that I thought was really impactful for me it felt like 
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a true philosophy and I have my own anthro onology that is not entirely 
24:47 
accurate but I feel things as like this feels like this is something that's true right so anthropos your body ontology 
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what is real right and so when I read verse four of the daging it says the da is like a well used but 
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never used up it is like the Eternal void filled with infinite possibilities 
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it is hidden but always present I don't know who gave birth to it it is older 
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than God that's great oh that's amazing it's yeah and to me that feels like the what 
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what the Dao is describing is this fundamental unified field field that's 
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right and that field this is what the students will not be taught okay that 
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field is actually was actually discovered by Max plun while he wrote 
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These equations the ma the plank law has a little bit that was removed from it 
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okay that described just what you read MH because so so now when you solve 
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blanc's law for the internal energy of the oscillator 
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okay there's a part of the equation 12 um H bar mu or can be Omega depending if 
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you're doing how you write the equation but which says so so okay so let me back 
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up the equation says at this temperature you get this Spectra of heat okay like 
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meaning at this I'm sorry at this temperature you get this amount of energy from the oscillator right so so 
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you get a spectrum right of uh and you see that when you buy a light bulb still it'll 
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say you know 3,000 k on it right 3,000 caline that is the temperature of the 
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light bulb the the the energy Radiance of that light light bulb okay and I 
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suppose you can measure that is heat or light like lumens or or cin yeah 
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emission from the from the filament nowadays light bulbs are made 
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of diode so you know we we have that convention to describe the you know the 
27:16 
the color of the photons emitted by the light bulb still but it's actually not 
27:24 
coming from a filament anymore right however you know this this 
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fundamental equation that describes this so it got rid of the ultraviolet 
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catastrophe problem it give the right answer for the ultraviolet emission and all this when you solve it it tells you 
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there's a part that tells you that at zero caline so on your graph on your Spectra 
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zero caline would be like the ground state of the electromagnetic field right 
28:00 
when zero emission should happen so that's the cessation of all Energy Zero 
28:06 
calvine there's nothing zero Calvin like have you been to Canada I've been to Edmonton okay yeah it's [ __ ] cold 
28:13 
it's damn cold right feels like zero calvine yeah well you know it's not anywhere close to zero calvine right 
28:20 
even and so zero caline is seriously [ __ ] cold right so nothing should 
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move absolute there should be no thermal agitation there should be no energy mhm 
28:33 
however the equation which gives all the right answer for the rest of the stuff says that at zero calvine there's an 
28:40 
infinite amount of energy the equation diverges to Infinity 
28:45 
there and so it's almost like at zero calvine we're back to the dowo which is 
28:51 
completely full with infinite possibilities and infinite energies it's like a point of Singularity ex exactly 
28:58 
exactly and and you said the word Singularity which implies Einstein field 
29:04 
equation so let's hold that okay you got the right idea yeah now you have a so so so but but you 
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say but okay so yeah you're so that means the ground state of the 
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electromagnetic field is full of energy 
29:25 
mhm when uh Marx plong discovered this he called it Zero Point Energy Zero 
29:32 
calvine Energy right and so Zero Point Energy was like oh what do we do with 
29:39 
infinite amount of energy right well in general now was this done 
29:46 
on purpose was this done just because we didn't know what to do with the infinite amount of energy 
29:54 
whatever I would say probably a little bit of both and I've done a lot of research in history of 
30:00 
physics you have to put it in the context of the time we're talking you 
30:07 
know second world first world war second world war we're talking about you know 
30:13 
looking for atomic energy the atomic bomb being 
30:18 
developed giving the world the impression that there was an 
30:25 
infinite source of energy that could be access might have 
30:31 
been not necessarily what people wanted to do at the time well certainly not if 
30:36 
you're a you know Titan in the petroleum industry you know that you definitely 
30:42 
don't want Infinite Energy if you're control controlling the oil and gas and coal of the world I would say that might 
30:47 
have been a reason later on right but early on definitely you know it it could 
30:54 
have been like on purpose drout it but 
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basically what happened is that that part of the equation was removed 
31:06 
generally okay it's not taught clearly to the and if physicists that are 
31:14 
listening to this might say but no I I i' I saw that somewhere it's taught 
31:20 
incorrectly because people think that it comes from uncertainty principle which 
31:26 
it doesn't uncertainty princip iple come from 0 point energy being there but I'm 
31:32 
going to tell you what you what happens when you remove it okay what happens 
31:38 
when you remove it is your your equation now is describing an oscillator without 
31:44 
a source so it's spinning so now let me ask you your wheels on your car which is 
31:52 
an oscillator right it's spinning thing okay though they do they go anywhere 
31:58 
if you don't put energy in it uh only if I'm on a downhill 
32:06 
yes then you're using the gravitational field to put energy in the system right 
32:12 
so that's called a gravitational potential if they're on flat they don't go anywhere until you put energy right 
32:19 
so you have to put energy in an oscillator for the oscillator to continue to oscillate right let's go 
32:25 
back to the spring and the weight yeah like how do an atom spin where is the energy source that that keeps all atoms 
32:32 
spinning all electrons moving where is that where does that come from dude they get on the case of people that 
32:40 
have been working on what they call free energy or overunity devices all the time 
32:47 
saying you guys are trying to violate the laws of conservation of energy and 
32:52 
da da da this is a violation like right in the base of quantum mechanics there's 
32:58 
a violation of the laws of conservation because your oscillator if it go back to 
33:03 
a spring and a wait if you if you stop doing this what 
33:08 
happens does the spring continue oscillating yeah for a minute or two but then it stops right so the same thing 
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the the and so and when you calculate it it's inconsistent mathematically meaning 
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like the so this field okay okay that's the Zero Point Energy is described as 
33:30 
like constructive and destructive waves of the electromagnetic field right and 
33:37 
if they can't if if that was all cancelled 
33:42 
out it would be technically it's called 
33:48 
commutative the equation cannot be commutative meaning it has to be non-commutative that means there's got 
33:55 
to be more energy that comes in to overcome the resistance of the 
34:02 
oscillator to continue to oscillate just like you have to put energy in your motor right for your wheels to keep you 
34:10 
know against the friction and the weight that it's pulling and all this stuff so this is this is this is like a 
34:16 
revelation that seems like right in front of our eyes so there's been a quest to create a machine that could 
34:23 
perpetually move a perpetual motion machine which doesn't require additional energy yeah to to add it so you start 
34:30 
the momentum and then once you start the momentum it goes infinitely right like that's been scientific study but it's 
34:37 
happening all the time with every single atom exactly it's in perpetual motion 
34:42 
without the adding of additional energy so the only thing did you ever receive a bill Poss yeah the only thing that could 
34:48 
possibly explain it is there's a source of infinite energy at the root of all of that and we found it and then it was 
34:56 
ignored it's 100 some years later 
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unbelievable 30 years ago when I was starting to present in physics conference I used to talk to people 
35:08 
about this and they would say but you're talking about perpetual motion that's impossible and then I would ask them 
35:16 
where have you seen anything else where have you I'm not talking 
35:23 
about you relative to a car I'm saying the universe doesn't hasn't it shown any evidence of 
35:31 
stopping or slowing down in fact we know it's expanding and accelerating W which 
35:39 
at the time we didn't know 30 years ago like that was found like later on in like the early 2000 but this this um you 
35:48 
know like not only is it not slowing down it's accelerating but on top of it 
35:54 
we haven't seen one proton ever decay the proton is the nuclear of an atom we 
36:00 
haven't seen one proton ever Decay we see protons together Decay and radiate 
36:07 
but the proton itself doesn't Decay we've not seen that ever you know 
36:13 
another interesting thing and sorry I apologize for these tangents but as things illuminate in my mind so we'll 
36:19 
we'll just take this low you know the idea that if you split an atom like in a 
36:25 
hydrogen bomb or a regular nuclear bomb creates this massive explosion of energy when they first started to do that there 
36:31 
was legitimate concern that it would create so much energy that it would 
36:37 
destroy everything just in just in theit the yeah ignite the atmosphere and 
36:42 
everything and it would just be the destruction of the whole world so that's why if you watch you know watch the 
36:48 
movie about oppenheim and everything everyone was kind of a little sweaty you know when they when they first had that 
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because when they pushed the button there was actually a way you could write the equation to show yeah the atmosphere 
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could catch on fire and we could lose the atmosphere and yeah because at the 
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at the core of everything is infinite energy so if you somehow unleashed the core of everything you would get the 
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destruction of everything but that's the other thing when 
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you you you create fishing right you're 
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liberating massive amount of energy from a very small amount of matter mhm 
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eal mc˛ on matter is a lot of energy 
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yeah and so this is this is remarkable 
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where is this energy coming from in the movie Oppenheimer I was 
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proud of them for at least mentioning it's very quickly mentioned that it's 
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the strong force it's the force that's holding the atom together that's being liberating 
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mhm but the mass of the protons that make up that nucle right protons and 
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neutrons is not given in standard physics so I'm not 
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going to want to get too technical here I will get back to the master proton MH 
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but you have to understand that that currently in a very uh nonrigorous 
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s uh the mass of the proton which is the mass of matter how how matter has energy 
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how matter has mass is not given in physics M it is no equation antical 
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equation that says it just says that it's the result of the strong force 
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interacting mhm which is not the source of which is not given yet so this is what I did in 
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this paper mhm I went through I said okay you can't remove this Zero Point 
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Energy it's mathematically and physically 
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inconsistent everything should have stopped a long time ago if this no source to the oscillator right right and 
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then I calculated with what's called correlation functions they equations 
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that describe in a field of waves like think of the surface of of the ocean how 
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many are going to like cancel out and how many are going to be constructive 
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mhm and because the equation in non is non-commutative that means that there's 
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actually you know it's not the same a photon that's absorbed into the 
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oscillator and emitted is not the same as a photon that's emitted and absorb so 
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you you end up with a with a um a 
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positive energy a surplus yeah a surplus so I calculated the correlation 
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function of this field for an object and so you put in 
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there like the correlation time it's it's like the scale at which you're 
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looking you when you looking at the waves they'd be bigger waves smaller waves smaller waves smaller waves right 
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so you put in there the scale you want to look and when I look for the plank I got the plank Mass but when I look for 
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the proton I got the proton Mass mhm the whole thing mhm showing that the mass or 
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the energy of matter which is the proton Right is coming from this field yes you 
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see this is this is remarkable mhm it's remarkable because the standard model 
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has this whole hi mechanism you know that gives Mass to particles right they called it the God 
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particle right they spent some 13 billion dollar building accelerators to 
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find it cost a billion. five a year budget to keep that thing going and you 
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know and at the end the M the higs mechanism in the standard model is only 
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consistent inside the standard model when you go to experiment to verify it 
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right for the proton you're predicting less than 1% the mass the proton 5 to 1% 
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the mass the proton and then if you add that to the fact that we're missing 96% the mass in cosmology then you're only 
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predicting like .1% of what we see right yeah okay so I 
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have so this this this is coming to me here and I I need to I need to step back to something you said said the universe 
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is expanding so the universe is both Mass light energy so is that would that 
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be correct to say that the universe is energy roughly in different in different ways in different ways it's 
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99.9% plasma okay so and whatever is not plasma is plasma that's cooled off okay 
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so if it's expanding yeah then there's something Beyond the Horizon very good 
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there's something Beyond the Horizon what is it that's Beyond the Horizon that we're expanding into what is what 
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is that is that most likely a larger universe whoa okay so we're expanding 
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it's a a universe of a different type no just a larger universe think of a galaxy 
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inside our universe right it it it expanded from a quazar you know like it 
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it became a galaxy expanding inside our universe so okay so then when the Dao 
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ding is saying that the Dao which is the unified field of all universes all 
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universes must come from the unified field right right so all universes we're and we say maybe we say God is our 
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universe right and they they say the da is older than than God then they must be 
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talking about the universe our universe is in yes yes they're talking about the 
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the great Universe right which is probably in a larger one again and the larg infinite but that's all still the doubt 
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so yeah yeah so now you have the concept of fractality Singularity right right so God is 
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describing our universe our universe is all contained within the substrate of a unified field that you call it the da I 
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like to call it the force but whatever that whatever that is we're just one 
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fractal of that that's right and in that field of energy it's coming from all 
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these oscillators think of universe is an oscillator is spinning to and you know everything in it is oscillating the 
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field of energy is got all these illation in it infinite possibilities 
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that's right infinite oscillations infinite amount of energy infinite amount of 
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energy and and and and even if you just say okay well I'm going to cut it off at 
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the plank scale because that's the speed of light whatever you know like we show in the paper that there's a good reason 
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to use the long scale as a cut off when you you still have 10 to the 93 G per CM 
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Cub so if you if you took all the stars we see in the universe and the black 
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hole everything and we stuck it into a centimeter cube of space we would be 39 
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orders of magnitude not as dense as 10 to the 93 G you know so it's 
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like insane amount of energy is present in in each centim cube of space wow and 
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and that's what's running our world yes and and and it's been there for a 
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hundred years in our equations I had a vision in an aboga Journey where I was you know communing 
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with spirit and we talked about this before you get access to information and then you always translate it through a 
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hermeneutic prism of your ability to understand and these medicines these sacred plants they open up a window to 
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try and give you something that you could interpret in a way and this thing that I this thing that I saw this Vision 
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that I saw that I'm going to explain was in many ways Beyond Comprehension to me at the time because I asked what is the 
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nature of God right what is the nature of God and it showed me the image that it said was the image that it showed was 
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this giant blue Titan it was like this Titan figure it had uh it had its own 
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kind of uh anthropomorphic kind of image that came to me but I don't take that 
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super seriously it was just that's what it was showing me I was like okay God is this giant Titan and then Titan was 
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moving in an elliptical on an elliptical track like a like a racer in like in the 
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Olympics whatever you're moving around it was moving around a track and I was like okay so God is moving moving 
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infinitely around this track spinning like an oscillation that's right and then that's called circulation in fluid 
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dynamics okay all right all right so Vision Visions tracking so far and then 
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it showed me that there was an infinite amount of these Titans these 
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gods that were also all running around the track and then I was like what the 
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hell does this mean but now it's starting to make sense that the track is like the unified field and God as a 
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universe is just one of many universes spinning around this this elliptical 
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track that's right that's right and what's making it spin around right 
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what's make what's holding to the center the da the gra the gravity okay that gravity 
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yeah and so we've been talking about quantum mechanics on the other side we have 
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equations that says that SpaceTime curves to produce gravity uh when there 
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is a presence of energy or mass right so that side we haven't 
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discuss yet but it it works into this right because I when you write this when 
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you keep the source of energy for your oscillator and you write this properly you 
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inevitably arrive at general relativity MH and so the detractors out there say 
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oh but he's using general relativity it's a natural consequence of 
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writing the equ and they you know they comment you can't use relativity at the 
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quantum scale oh yes you can the universe is not like confused 
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about the state of gravity just the humans yeah right so and and in this in 
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this way you can imagine okay so we have planets rotating around the Sun Sun is 
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Sun is rotating around a Galaxy the Galaxy is rotating around you know like 
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everything is orbiting and so the UN Central Some central point and so the universe itself might be orbiting a 
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black hole a black hole a singularity at its Center at the center of everything and then there's many other univer many 
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other universes all or yeah all orbiting a larger one all orbiting a larger one 
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and so on yeah so somewhere at the center of go down yeah you can go down all the way 
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down pass PL pass you know all the way down and I wrote These equation and I 
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found the the scaling the coupling of all these oscillators inside each other 
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I found how it couples it's we measure these things empirically it it involves 
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the gravitational constants that we measure uh the rberg constant that we 
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measure all these things we measure these constants we don't know where they came 
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from in physics right this puts it all together you you 
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you start to understand oh that's why G is G that's why you know C is C that's 
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why it all starts making sense why things why values that we measure are 
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highly tuned for our universe to work because it's the mechanics of how it 
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works and it eventually emerg life from it and and this is a really powerful 
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part that I just solved two weeks ago because I just didn't have time to apply 
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to biophysics but I did a few weeks ago I'm really excited about it mhm so Li so 
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life and light and and anything that we can measure matter Life Light this is 
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actually a a a reduction of the possible energy of the unified field right like 
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it's like a partiality it's like a partiality of it it's a relationship it's a coupling it's called we coupling 
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a across scale if you have something that's spinning right that's really small if they get together Spinners and 
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they become coherent so these equation the the correlation function they describe how much coherency there is at 
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each scale how many of the the the the Spinners are contributing their energy to that scale 
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right so more they're coherent more they're going to contribute right let me 
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give you an analogy that like might make it clearer 
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okay you're in your bath with your rubber ducky as you do always yes never 
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without that's right and you pull the plug okay if you bring the rubber ducky 
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close to the drain it will appear like it's orbiting M right right and it it it 
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it's it appears like it's attracted to the drain right and and if you put it away 
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far from the drain then all the water is chaotic so it's not going anywhere mhm 
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but in the region of the drain the water the water molecules are coherent they're 
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all co-moving in a coherent way and if you look at the surface you can see it 
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curve M this is what Einstein described the curvature of SpaceTime MH which he 
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didn't say what SpaceTime is made of mhm although at the quantum level we had 
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that field of infinite so let's let's for listeners non rigorously I did it 
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rigorously but just so we understand each other let's put space time and this fundamental Zero Point Energy field 
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together right it's one thing and and so he described the surface of the water curving creating gravity where does 
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energy or mass SpaceTime curves and an object rolls towards it right that's 
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what he described but that's a secondary effect in your bath the the real effect 
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is that all the little particles of water are moving co-moving together see 
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that's the quantum size objects this is why quantum physics and relativity have 
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not been unified because one is describing a smooth surface curving and the other one 
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is describing little packets yeah in a cerent and 
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so I put together because it's it's kind of obvious right but so so what I'm 
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saying is that to understand like everything has a 
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center and is spinning or is orbiting this center right and it's because the 
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flow of this fundamental field is coherent in that region mhm just like in 
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that region of your bath it's coherent because there's a gradient there there's a density gradient M so it's like it's 
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like and and now you can use fluid dynamics equation and look at it and you 
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you'll find that it has like very specific geometry like a toide geometry 
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it's going to flow out at the equator it's going to flow in at the at the poles and you know it's going to have a 
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very Dynamic and and each scale is going to influence each other scale so now now 
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you can calculate the impact of a smaller scale on a larger scale the coupling of these scale and all of a 
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sudden you find all of the correct you know um coupling constants all the 
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correct values for the force we observe the constants we observe and all this you start to understand that it's like a 
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huge fluid Dynamic structure that we're embedded in right that that has infinite 
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potential like it's it's remarkable all right so let me see if I get this straight so at the center of every atom 
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is like is like a drain which is like a black hole right and everything is circling Singularity everything is 
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circling around this black hole and then everything and so as you get larger we were talking before the podcast about 
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the sun being a black hole well of course if that's like the drain you know even though it's emitting light which is 
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also you know kind of mindboggling because we don't think of a black hole as emitting light but anything that's the drain that's that anything is 
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circling around is like a sing it's like a little Singularity a little black hole and there's fractals of it so a galaxy 
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has its own Center drain and when the universe has its own but all the way down to the atom that's is so good but 
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so much in what you said that needs unpacking for a physicist listening to it but but it's absolutely correct what 
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you're saying mhm it's very very good uh basically you know um you can't so 
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remember you have infinite amount of energy and energy curv space yes in 
55:39 
Einstein Phil equation so that means that every point in space is curved to 
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Infinity right because at every at every point is this Singularity infinite amount of energy Y and and so so that 
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means that every point in space is a mini black hole mhm right at the plank 
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scale and then there's just different magnitudes that's right exactly is and 
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because there's going to be different moments where the spin you know how you 
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get um coriolis forces and centrifugal forces when you spin something right the 
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spin that's pulling away from the The Singularity and the the for of the 
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singularity are going to be going to be in the right balance so that it produce 
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a bubble mhm it produce an horizon and the and one of those bubbles 
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so when the strength of the zero point is able to like pinch SpaceTime and make 
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a first thing is the pl scale MH and then again at the proton scale you know 
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and and it makes scales and we figured out that scaling Factor so now and it 
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gives the right answer it gives the right mass for the proton right energy the right mass and the right energy for 
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the electron and and planets and stars and galaxies it does all the right thing 
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mhm all right and and and the idea that a black hole is just something that just sucks everything in is completely false 
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it's a fallacy of misinterpretation of Einstein fi equation mhm because 
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Einstein didn't solve his own equation when he wrote These equation to describe like how space time is elastic and it's 
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curving he didn't solve that that was too hard to solve uh an amazing mathematical 
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physicist um that was fighting on the Russian front got Ein a hold of 
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Einstein's paper and said oh I can solve that and solved it okay while fighting 
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on the Russian front and being sick and he died two weeks later 
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um and it's called the S child solution call sild solved this is it was the 
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first exact solution to Einstein's equation because Einstein's equation were written a very difficult formalism 
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this much better formalism today to use to to solve Einstein field equation but 
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it's not very much use and I'm not sure why exactly it's not very much used um 
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but in any case he solved this it's called the sword child solution and he sent it to Einstein and he said hey your 
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equation predicts a singularity so Einstein was 
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very you know distru about that because it said that they would be that his 
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equation predicted that all the mass would be in the center and it would curve SpaceTime to the point that light 
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could not emerge from it but when sword child solved this he solved it for a non 
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spinning noncharged object to do a first level approximation and then he died so 
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the the spin and the charge didn't come till the 70s mhm right so the 
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interpretation Einstein was discouraged because he thought well my equation probably predicts something that's not 
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real because he didn't believe that there would be something so massive that 
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even the the escape velocity of of light could not emerge from it and that's how 
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the concept of a black hole which was wheeler that called it that way uh came 
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out right well that's all true 
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if you know the black hole is not 
59:47 
spinning and it's not true for anything past the black hole meaning anything 
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past The Horizon like the equation predicts a radius right this is the radius where light cannot Escape 
1:00:02 
anymore but there is stable orbits all around the outside there's even stable 
1:00:08 
orbits that have been shown inside the black hole mhm okay yeah so there's fundamental ideas about the black hole 
1:00:15 
that are that are that are misunderstood all right the idea that they're just absorbing everything so 
1:00:21 
imagine you have something that's spinning it's black hole spin at the speed of light mhm okay particles are 
1:00:27 
falling into a black hole spin at the speed of light they they fall in at they 
1:00:32 
eventually reach a imagine as they're going in the centrifugal forces how 
1:00:39 
strong they would be long before they got anywhere close to the event horizon the thing gets spit out so actually for 
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things to fall into a black hole is very difficult they have to approach very specific angles from the poles to be 
1:00:54 
able to fall in yeah otherwise they get spun out and and presumably when they go in they come out 
1:01:01 
in some other form in some other way well they get shredded whatever they might they they get transformed yes but 
1:01:08 
but but more importantly when I start talking this way 30 years ago I then 
1:01:15 
predicted that in order for a Galaxy to exist there must be a black hole in the middle M or for an atom to exist there 
1:01:21 
must be a black hole but that was already so much controversial but but I PRI predicted they would be black hole 
1:01:27 
at the center of all galaxies we observe and that's what we found mhm now if black holes were object that are just 
1:01:33 
swallowing everything that's around them galaxies wouldn't exist there would be nothing right there would be no galaxies 
1:01:41 
right right because at the and in the the essential nature of a black hole is the infinite the infinite energy of 
1:01:49 
vacuum fluctuation yeah and what we're calling and so that hasn't been put together they they Einstein equations 
1:01:57 
and they solve quantum physics in different ways Zero Point Energy was 
1:02:02 
removed anyway like it's not put together a black hole is just the Zero Point Energy in that region of space 
1:02:10 
spinning you see think of a a smoothie you know it's the Smoothie Universe 
1:02:16 
right right SpaceTime like this fundamental energy when it spins in a 
1:02:23 
coherent way like in your bath at the drain it produce an effect we call 
1:02:30 
gravity all right so is there is there any place and I use place in a kind of I 
1:02:36 
know it may not be a place because we're talking about time and dimensionality and whatever but so and words get 
1:02:42 
complicated to try and explain is there a place or any any element or aspect of 
1:02:48 
the universe that is not spinning is there a place where actually there's Stillness oh yeah there's a place where 
1:02:56 
there's Stillness at Singularity Singularity when you when you solve for 
1:03:02 
all the modes they all cancel out like all the spins in infinite amount of 
1:03:08 
universe you could cancel out to zero spin to Stillness to Stillness 
1:03:15 
but but that would still be you know a 
1:03:20 
cut off you you because you can't um you know you can't solve for all the modes 
1:03:29 
right um it would be like Enlightenment right where you have access to the hole 
1:03:36 
right um so in some ways I could say yes this is 
1:03:42 
stillness at the center of spin just like the center of a hurricane yeah the eye of the hurricane is more still than 
1:03:49 
yeah you know no wind right you're in the center of the hurricane where you'd expect maximum wind right no wind and 
1:03:56 
then right on the edge of the eye of their then everything starts starts spinning more all right so I'm going to 
1:04:02 
take you back to another mystical tradition that I've become aware of and it's deep in the study of kabala which 
1:04:08 
I'm in a in a deep study and there's a concept called ssum and this concept is 
1:04:14 
about the creation of the universe and what it basically is alluding to and pointing to and there's some 
1:04:20 


interpretation here to get to this but the concept of ssum which has been written about is the idea that at the 
1:04:27 
beginning of everything was not actually this expansion of light but actually 
1:04:33 
there was a unified field that was completely full it was completely full of all possible energy it was it was 
1:04:39 
full and in that way you could say still because it's full it's absolute it's absolute so in order for there to be 
1:04:47 
articulation of different spectrums of light different spectrums of sound different energy simum was described as 
1:04:54 
a great in breath that created actually it actually pulled pulled energy or 
1:05:00 
pulled something from the fullness so that uniqueness could emerge 
1:05:06 
encapsulated yeah so it pulls in the it's an in breath that pulls in some of the fullness and then allows 
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articulation to then spread back out into unique fullness right because in 
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the fractal infinite Universe each point is the center okay so each point of 
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observe the universe from its own center right like you're a human I'm a human 
1:05:32 
right but we have different retinas we have different you know uh fingerprints 
1:05:37 
not one human is the same not one snowflake is the same one not each point 
1:05:44 
Express itself from its own Center so it's observing there's you don't see the same 
1:05:53 
thing as I see because I'm looking at this side the body bottle you seeing that side of the bottle because we're in 
1:05:59 
different coordinates we're different Center we observe from a different perspective so we gather different 
1:06:06 
information we feed to the field different information so the field makes 
1:06:12 
us different mhm so it's an individualization as soon as the energy 
1:06:18 
can close up SpaceTime and make a particle it's made a point of reference 
1:06:24 
that's observed from its own perspective so in this in this idea what's coming to me is the idea of Atman and Brahman 
1:06:32 
right Brahman being the everything in its totality AP perspectival yeah right 
1:06:38 
like it's just the the totality of everything as far as I understand the idea of Brahman it's the whole thing a 
1:06:44 
perspectively just and then Atman is our is our own unique participation that's 
1:06:51 
right in that and so we see so our universe is different than every other Universe because we're 
1:06:58 
actually our own unique perspective of the whole universe which is oton so we actually have a perspective and then 
1:07:04 
Brahman is the perspective that's AP perspectival and sees everything yeah 
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very good and I mean and you you can think of it even that like when you 
1:07:17 
start thinking this way then you're you're getting closer to actually putting the things together to unify 
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physics because you're starting to talk in terms of information right you're talking about 
1:07:31 
the in like the you know a point holding a set of information that's different 
1:07:37 
from all the other sets of information so now you have distinction 
1:07:42 
you have points of information interacting together and exchange of 
1:07:47 
information and so and and so now you can start calculating in terms of 
1:07:53 
information and when you do you get right answers right it's remarkable 
1:07:58 
because you know you can talk about it in philosophy but then if you can write 
1:08:04 
the equation now you have engineering MH you understand how the universe 
1:08:11 
works fundamentally like analytically and now you can start 
1:08:17 
making technology that works the same way right and now you have technology 
1:08:24 
that's vastly vastly more advanced than what we have today which is possibly and most likely 
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what these alternate star system civilizations which I fully believe are 
1:08:37 
exist have been able to access which explains the phenomenon that occur about 
1:08:43 
how these ships travel and how these things fing our atmosphere and even in 
1:08:49 
even in the vision State like non non-material beings that appear you know 
1:08:54 
they're traveling you know they're traveling in a different way through a different energy source this Quantum 
1:09:00 
kind of energy source they just tapped into the fundamental energy source of creation so and since it's curved to 
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Infinity everywhere it's already all warhold it's already this is why there's 
1:09:14 
entanglement we measure in laboratory quantum mechanics told us 
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that you know actually Einstein wrote these papers with Rosen and 
1:09:26 
pedasi showing that like quantum mechanics must be wrong because it's saying that like things could be 
1:09:33 
entangled Across the Universe right that like a particle over 
1:09:38 
here if I changed it it could affect a particle on the other side of the universe 
1:09:44 
instantaneously and he wrote these papers trying to disprove quantum mechanics or that interpretation of 
1:09:51 
quantum mechanics but in two months he wrote another paper showing that oh even 
1:09:57 
in relativity you know um they could form SpaceTime could form warm holes 
1:10:04 
that connected two points in the universe um instantaneously 
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mhm and most physicists didn't really understand what Einstein did there yeah 
1:10:16 
and and and most I mean they call it spooky action at a distance right CU spooky because it's like what the [ __ ] 
1:10:21 
is going on here because we don't understand it and people didn't clue in that actually Einstein tried to solve 
1:10:29 
that problem with wormholes mhm they think that he wrote two papers independently although the writers were 
1:10:36 
very much the same people right it was Rosen and Einstein for wormholes and Rosen and n and pki and for the other 
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and so but this this not you know like he was trying to understand this like 
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wait SpaceTime is like a fabric that's like networked you know 
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and he he wrote it for particles not for black holes in the universe you he saying particles seem to be like 
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wormholes black holes Network so so what is so a wormhole to me if I'm 
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understanding what a wormhole must be it must be just a way that things connect through the unified field that's right 
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right that field that Zero Point Energy fluctuating field is like has structure 
1:11:24 
to it that con conects like all it's like the black holes are the Hub and the 
1:11:30 
wormholes are the wires that connects the Hub of Network and and there's basically infinite wires that's right 
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and infinite wormholes and and the wormholes are plunk scale right so 
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they're the the most micro micro micro wormholes right and and when and when 
1:11:48 
information go through cannot be plun scale so it's hyperplan it's it's supl 
1:11:55 
yeah cuz it's just in it's in the unified field at that point yeah and so and so because we have the scaling now 
1:12:03 
yeah in our equations I can calculate the speed of the sub blanan 
1:12:08 
field wow I can calculate how fast the universe is thinking we think it's 
1:12:15 
instantaneously by you know the measurements of entanglement but that's 
1:12:21 
because we can't measure very fast yeah so fast it's faster than the speed of 
Spacetime or Spacememory?
1:12:27 
light by 10 to the 40th orders of magnitude so 
1:12:32 
when because you see if the whole thing this is another thing that's very 
1:12:39 
prominent in ancient civilization it says that the whole thing is network and organized MH it's not like that chaos is 
1:12:48 
only a perspective right right if you got your nose in the rug you can't see 
1:12:54 
the pattern you think it's chaos but if you back up then you start to see the pattern right yeah the whole MOA yeah so 
1:13:01 
so so so then I because if the whole thing is Network that means it's 
1:13:07 
feedback of information through this network right then the universe has to 
1:13:12 
be like updated every you know instant 
1:13:18 
right by entanglement and so I calculated at the speed of light the universe would break 
1:13:24 
down like you know it would take billions of years for information to go from one side of the universe to the 
1:13:29 
other to so that everything could be in the correct order of relationship MH so 
1:13:36 
this is this is let me just finish I I calculated at the sub plun in speed how 
1:13:43 
fast the universe is updating just for our universe not which is like the pulsing yeah the pulsing right and it's 
1:13:50 
updating at 10 to Theus 222 to for information to go from one 
1:13:56 
side of the universe to the other okay and it just happens to be the time that it takes a proton to do one turn uhhuh 
1:14:06 
uh you see you see how it's all based in the it's all relationship of oscillators 
1:14:12 
so there's a lot of esoteric and spiritual teachings that say there's a 
1:14:19 
place or dimensionality Beyond time and I think they use entanglement and I've seen this used that I'm not saying it's 
1:14:25 
correct but they use tanglement to say it's instantaneous right but there it 
1:14:30 
really didn't make sense to me instantaneous necessarily what does that mean it's used in physics what do you 
1:14:36 
mean by instantaneous right and what you're saying is it's no it's not instantaneous that time time and space 
1:14:43 
are connected and so there is no space without time and there's nothing there's no atemporal existence it's just going 
1:14:51 
down to such an infinitely infinitely fast fast exactly speed that it's almost 
1:14:58 
immeasurable for us definitely even information going across the universe 
1:15:03 
would look instantaneous and so as as long as there's differentiation of any sort because in the Stillness is 
1:15:09 
absolute Singularity right and there's Stillness where everything is just one so there's nothing moving and there's no 
1:15:15 
memory there's no time there's no that's at the center that's the center of everything but everything else it's just 
1:15:20 
scales of time that's right that makes way more sense to me and and even deeper 
1:15:26 
than that time is not a fundamental concept viewed from this 
1:15:32 
perspective um memory is a fundamental 
1:15:37 
concept right so so no memory no time if you don't know what happened before you 
1:15:45 
can't see an evolution in time do you see what I mean so I Chang 
1:15:52 
the word SpaceTime for space memory so I have a paper call you know space memory network uh that's a biophysics paper 
1:15:59 
that got cited actually better than my physics papers but um uh this so 
1:16:07 
basically if you look at um so so think 
1:16:12 
of time is really just different sets of information in in coordinates along a 
1:16:21 
line so for instance think of the Earth spinning around the the sun right so we 
1:16:26 
keep thinking that the Earth spinning around the Sun is like going around in a circle that's false right that should 
1:16:33 
never be taught to students it's incorrect the sun is moving in our galaxy and the the the planets are 
1:16:40 
spiraling as the sun is moving through the Galaxy we're like billions and 
1:16:45 
billions of you know kilometers away from where we were last year and and and 
1:16:53 
as we think of it say like we're leaving information in the structure of space in 
1:16:58 
in this network as creating a record in the Akash that's right which is the which is the grand Memory Bank of all of 
1:17:06 
all things which is was known by ancient civilization right and that is actually 
1:17:11 
memory even the memory of your mind like your memory is you accessing information 
1:17:19 
that was left in these coordinates when you were young for instance yeah and and 
1:17:24 
so and and it's malleable meaning you can change it okay and and so and and that's not 
1:17:34 
prohibited by Einstein Phil equations by the way um but but what I'm saying is 
1:17:41 
that it's better to think of time as information MH in coordinates in space 
1:17:47 
MH and so so basically when a bit of information leaves one side of the 
1:17:54 
universe because you've changed the state of a particle it's 
1:18:00 
information that is transferred to the other side do you see yeah 
1:18:07 
and the time it took is just the entropy 
1:18:13 
of this information having to go over there mm do you see right right and and 
Opposing Forces & Polarity
1:18:20 
this entropy this little energy lost is what we call Mass it's it's actually the 
1:18:29 
the the energy of creation so so the whole thing is thinking and as it's 
1:18:36 
thinking it's making matter it's making creation it's thinking slring right like 
1:18:43 
and record recording and so that would be that that entity if you wanted to call it that that is the ultimate memory 
1:18:50 
would be you could call that God I suppose yeah you could yeah it's just I 
1:18:55 
I'd rather not use that terminology because that word means so many different so many different people and 
1:19:02 
and you don't have to you can rigorously physically actually understand the 
1:19:08 
nature of the universe you can it's not something you absolutely can and it's 
1:19:16 
hard for people to believe that when I talk to physicist just recently a physicist at Burning Man you know it's 
1:19:23 
like how can you be so confident because it's analytical it's straight up analytical 
1:19:29 
and it works right it's not all publish I I've published this paper is a series 
1:19:36 
of three that are coming out and there's all kinds of papers are going to extend from that I'm working on a biophysics 
1:19:42 
paper right now that I was telling you I'm excited about um because when you do the scaling you actually end up with 
1:19:49 
microtubules in the brain when when you do the scaling you you realize that you 
1:19:55 
can actually microtubules are like the worm holes at the bio at the biological 
1:20:02 
scale if you'd like right right which is the structure in in the neurons that are like exchanging information that you 
1:20:10 
call thinking MH right so you can actually extrapolate to biology and why 
1:20:17 
biology becomes Co like why is there coherency you're made out of 100 
1:20:22 
trillion cells 50 to 100 trillion cells and each one is made out of 100 trillion 
1:20:29 
atom that is complex seriously stressful 
1:20:35 
level of like you know coherent Behavior because the universe desires coherency 
1:20:41 
desires ever greater intimacy and complexity there's a there's a desire at the core at the core of the cosmos the 
1:20:49 
system is self interacting so it has feedback so it will self organized into 
1:20:55 
higher and higher level of coherency but our current theories have only noticed 
1:21:01 
the Deery we've only looked at the radiation part not at the collapsing part at the 
1:21:09 
part that's going into coherency it's like we've only looked at 
1:21:14 
the water going away from the drain not the water that's falling into the drain and but in order for de coherency 
1:21:22 
in order for entropy to occur must be centropy they must be neg entropy so are 
1:21:30 
you are you are you starting to talk about this forces of polarity whereas there's some some expanding like light 
1:21:38 
expanding and then there's another Force pulling like the antithesis of that is that which is gravity okay yeah so I'm 
1:21:45 
I'm showing you so put it back into the plun plasma I call it this fi the plank 
1:21:50 
plasma said this PL and imagine all this smoothie of it's billions and billions 
1:21:56 
of plank just for a proton right it's a trillions of PL and when you calculate the energy of all these plank you get 
1:22:02 
the exact mass of the universe by the way so so we're clear in the proton when you calculate the mass of all the little 
1:22:09 
plun spinning you get the mass of the universe and then when you calculate the radiation energy of that black hole you 
1:22:16 
get the standard mass that we measure but but I I I want to I want to 
1:22:22 
say so so imagine that that's spinning right and and 
1:22:28 
there's think of this fluid Dynamic plung plasma is radiating out at the 
1:22:33 
equator that's the electromagnetic field and the stuff that's going back in That's Falling in the the circulation of 
1:22:42 
this plun plasma that's why when you said this track that the God was on is 
1:22:49 
circulation when you write this equation using circulation when it's circulation then you get the right gravitational 
1:22:56 
field that we measure at the proton scale that's holding the nucle together that we call 
1:23:03 
the strong force or the Color Force you get the right value right okay yeah okay 
1:23:09 
so you got so so you have a flow out and you have a flow in and that's and that's the polarity so for every for every out 
1:23:15 
there's an in there's an in exactly yeah and those forces are in dialectic tension so to speak that's right at the 
1:23:22 
Horizon and that's why you've created a bubble whether it's a proton or a star 
1:23:28 
or a Galaxy yeah and and if you tell a physicist that the sun is a black hole he's going to tell you no that's false 
1:23:36 
why because he's solving Einstein fi equations using the plunk uh the the the 
1:23:41 
call child solution which is it's funny it It's really funny 
1:23:47 
because whenever you use Einstein field equation and we use it to describe the 
1:23:55 
dynamics of planets spinning around stars or whatever every time you do that 
1:24:01 
you make a black hole with the star you make a black hole with the planet and then you get the right answer every time 
1:24:08 
you're using KW child solution every time people don't realize that they get 
1:24:15 
taught the equations they don't think twice they use this they've made a black 
1:24:21 
hole with the sun and the black hole with the with the with the planet to get the right answer um and so the they and 
1:24:30 
and so okay so so why is he going to tell you it's not a it's not a black hole the star is not a black hole that 
1:24:36 
the sun is not a black hole he's going to tell you that because if you solve for the mass of the sun with CW shell 
1:24:44 
solution of Einstein fil equation the radius of the Sun would have to be like 18 
1:24:50 
kilometers it shouldn't be what we see right but that's assuming that the 
1:25:00 
mass man they don't understand their own equation like listen the equation 
1:25:07 
says that at certain density light could not Escape anymore it's a density 
1:25:14 
equation mhm if you assume that the density is homogeneous throughout the 
1:25:20 
sun then of course it can't have that radius MH and be a black 
1:25:26 
hole but you could have a black hole inside the Sun MH that has the correct 
1:25:31 
density for it to be a black hole MH right and then a space and then the 
1:25:38 
plasma that's spinning around it just like a Galaxy right and the two the 
1:25:43 
plasma Mass plus the black hole in the middle is the mass of the Sun You observe and you would have no idea mhm 
1:25:50 
either than two things that we measure that would give us an idea and certainly 
1:25:57 
give me an idea okay one is that there would be region on the surface of the 
1:26:03 
Sun that would like where matter would like tend to want to fall 
1:26:09 
in right and it would make like spots where it's really dark because photons 
1:26:16 
would be sucked in and plasma would be sucked in and all this do we see that on the sun of course they're called sunspot 
1:26:24 
some of them are like 14 times the size of the Earth they're not small events 
1:26:30 
they're huge vortices on the sun right that are absorbing material and out of 
1:26:36 
these holes of soundspot radiation comes out okay x-ray 
1:26:43 
it's the highest level of X-ray right this is exactly what you expect when particles falls into black hole so if 
1:26:49 
you imagine if you imagine a sun and you applied the yin-yang symbol from from dosm right which is and of course it's 
1:26:57 
designed in a flat thing so it's not exactly it's not exactly I think accurate from a physics perspective 
1:27:03 
model but there's the black part of the of the symbol and then there's the light 
1:27:08 
part of the symbol and you could imagine that there's the black part then would be the black hole the sucking in that's 
1:27:15 
right the white part would be the expanding out of light but each sun is like a little yin-yang each atom is like 
1:27:21 
a little yin-yang where there's very good where I love your mind man thanks it's 
1:27:27 
remarkable you do very good because those concepts are complex but you know 
1:27:33 
you um this is why I made a 3D rendering of the ying-yang showing it was a Taurus 
1:27:40 
for the white part to be in the black and for the black part to be yes it had to be a Taurus in 3D that's why I did it 
1:27:48 
wow I didn't see that yeah I'll have to show you cute that's very cool I've 
1:27:53 
realized in my own in my own study of myself I also you know if I think of 
1:27:58 
myself let's say I'm a I'm a planet or whatever there's a part of me that's the light the life that's that's emitting 
1:28:05 
right and then there's also a part of me that I call anti you that's actually sucking and actually like pulling 
1:28:11 
against me cing you yeah and it's like pulling pulling against the expansion and but also necessary for the creation 
1:28:19 
yeah of who I am if you didn't have that Center you couldn't exist right like all 
1:28:24 
the Masters talking about go to your Center be in your Center look inside to 
1:28:29 
your Center like which is then looking back into the unified field and seeing seeing the force that connects 
1:28:36 
everything and then and the spin that radiates you every day right because 
1:28:41 
you're burning carnal energy like you're burning like at 100 degree Fahrenheit 
1:28:48 
all day long seven days a week Tre and if it varies by a few degrees you're 
1:28:53 
having a really bad day right it's got to stay pretty steady right nonstop 
1:29:00 
right it's significant amount of energy we can get into that but I want to give 
1:29:05 
you the second evidence for the sun um which is more recent when we measure the 
1:29:12 
gamma ray emission of the sun it's it's nothing like it should be like we're measuring way too much Gamay emission of 
1:29:20 
the Sun and that you know it if you calc how much 
1:29:26 
like what would be the source of such gam emission you'd have a black hole in 
1:29:31 
the middle and so these are things and there's there's other example there's 
1:29:36 
the nutrino issue there's all kinds of things 
1:29:42 
including this is really important including that when we see a star explode and people think it's very rare 
1:29:50 
that the star explode it's not like if you look at galaxies it's like um it's 
1:29:55 
like uh you know Christmas lights in a galaxy you know boom boom boom boom boom 
1:30:01 
it's constantly blowing you know this the stars blowing their their their 
1:30:08 
envelope continuously and when we and and we call it the the death of a star 
1:30:14 
or it's called a supernova right the super noova explosion what do we find 
1:30:21 
after the star is dead we don't find like oh there's nothing there anymore 
1:30:27 
because it just blew all to shreding you know it that's not what we find we find 
1:30:33 
a pulsar or black hole in the middle Pulsar is basically a black hole you 
1:30:38 
know and and and we you know and if you and then people 
1:30:44 
are realizing you know oh they call it a pulsar when they're looking on the side but if they look down the poles they 
1:30:49 
call it a black hole you know anyway so you're finding a super energetic black 
1:30:55 
hole structure mhm and we have this completely reverse in astrophysics we 
1:31:02 
think that it's because the star exploded that there's a black hole as if 
1:31:08 
you know an explosion it would have to be absolutely completely 
1:31:14 
symmetric it's not possible for an explosion to produce a black hole the 
1:31:19 
black hole was there first mhm that's what made the star the black hole is the 
1:31:26 
spin of the quantum vacuum energy in that region of space and then it gathers 
1:31:33 
matter it makes matter right because it's making smaller spins right that we 
1:31:39 
call protons and then eventually it gathers enough material so that it lights up right because there's enough 
1:31:46 
energy there's enough friction in the system there's enough Fusion that the thing lights upes and just and go so 
1:31:53 
it's it's actually creating more and more energy from the zero point field more and more and more energy until 
1:31:58 
finally it can't hold that energy and and it it drags it starts dragging on 
1:32:03 
SpaceTime so much and and there's the carbon cycle that we observe in our sun 
1:32:09 
where you know the the other layers start cooling off and they start making a shell and then the the energy builds 
1:32:18 
inside and then eventually bam it blows mhm and when it blows it puts material 
1:32:25 
everywhere in its vicinity right this material reorganize on smaller vortices 
1:32:33 
of SpaceTime MH right of the vacuum fluctuation and makes Planet MH this is 
1:32:40 
why the first exoplanets we found planets outside of our solar system we found we found them around pulsars and 
1:32:47 
everybody was like how can there be planets there right it just blew up like 
1:32:52 
how can there be planets that's because and and as well this is why 
1:32:58 
we're missing 80% the mass of the galaxies we have to add Dark Matter this 
1:33:03 
dark matter Dark Energy thing it's just because we haven't calculated the quantum vacuum energy and the Dynamics 
1:33:10 
of such a thing inside the Galaxy as soon as you put that in you get the right answers so you know 
1:33:18 
basically it's the Smoothie Universe you just got to think of it that way and now you can start to 
1:33:24 
see yeah you know earlier on when I was presenting in physics they were telling 
1:33:30 
me planets are probably extremely rare and because of their model and from my 
1:33:36 
model I was saying planets should be around almost every Star because they go through this cycle of blowing material 
1:33:44 
out that reorganizes in planets this is why all the material we see in our solar 
Real Life Applications
1:33:50 
system we know came from the Sun mhm right this is because you know the 
1:33:57 
protoplanetary disc we are in the other thing they notice is that oh it's 
1:34:02 
bizarre our sun is in the middle of this bubble of nothing that's because and they and they 
1:34:08 
say well they must have been a supernova explosion near our sun that made that 
1:34:15 
moved everything out and it's like no if if there was an explosion a supernova 
1:34:22 
near our sun our son would have been moved out with the rest of stuff it's our son that has gone through one of 
1:34:30 
those Cycles right and that has made planets and so I predicted there would be 
1:34:35 
planets around pretty well every Sun every Star and that's what we're finding 
1:34:41 
we're actually having a hard time finding stars that don't have planets right and we're having a hard time 
1:34:48 
explaining why we're finding super massive very mature galaxies and black 
1:34:55 
holes at the beginning of the universe because now with our telescope we can see almost to what we call the big bang 
1:35:04 
right and we see huge black holes and galaxies there in the standard model 
1:35:10 
should not be there MH but that's because of course this it it is the 
1:35:16 
source of the Galaxy not the result it's the source of stars not the 
1:35:22 
result it's the source of matter not the result you know like it mass is 
1:35:31 
generated by this fundamental field is there such a thing as like anti-mass or 
1:35:38 
or a vacuum that is the antithesis of of mass itself in some level as as you kind 
1:35:44 
of balance the equation right so if there's something that's in articulation then there's something that's in the 
1:35:50 
antithesis of that articulation magnetic field is what you 
1:35:55 
could call enti Mass uh right it's it's what radiates out and that's why Photon 
1:36:03 
have zero Mass right it's what radiates out so when it 
1:36:09 
radiates out when the plun field when this fundamental field is is moving out 
1:36:14 
it's um it's going towards zero mass and when it's going in it's going towards 
1:36:21 
infinite Mass you see and then if you if you I'm trying to get this in words of 
1:36:29 
course that a little bit difficult but I I'm hoping your followers are following 
1:36:35 
yeah I I really I know it's it's Technical and I hope it's interesting to 
1:36:43 
them because really it sits at the center of our 
1:36:48 
existence and I think it and it will bring technology that will change the 
1:36:55 
world fundamentally and you know I don't like using this sentence but it will 
1:37:00 
save the world like yes and I I'm it's not a saving thing because it's it's 
1:37:07 
just a natural evolution of any societies they eventually figure out how 
1:37:12 
the electromagnetic fields works and because it's easier right because it's 
1:37:18 
radiating out so it's easier to understand and then eventually they 
1:37:23 
figure out how the gravitational field emerg from the foundation of the 
1:37:30 
electromagnetic field from this ground state of the electromagnetic field and 
1:37:36 
that's the second step of an advanced civilization right and then when they 
1:37:41 
have that they have not only almost infinite amount of energy available to 
1:37:46 
them but they have gravity control so they don't need to be on the surface of a planet anymore they control gravity 
1:37:55 
they can make Ships In Space the size of planets if they want to right because as 
1:38:00 
soon as you can control gravity you all of a sudden you can do whatever you want you can go to Jupiter for the weekend 
1:38:08 
you see and that changes your Consciousness fundamentally right so then yeah so I 
1:38:13 
think for the second part of this podcast you know now that we understand the universe in a deeper way yeah I'd 
1:38:20 
like to go into okay so how does this how does this impact an ordinary 
1:38:26 
individual as they're on their own path of evolution and transformation right 
1:38:32 
like so how do how does somebody who's listened to all this hopefully kept with us in this deep understanding had their 
1:38:38 
mind blown several times like I have and then how does this actually apply to an 
1:38:44 
ordinary person how does that change how they go about living their life oh there's so many ways it's so incredible 
1:38:52 
to understand this um at the most profound level you like I think that I 
1:39:02 
at least to start with a sense that you're part of something much like 
1:39:08 
you're not isolated you're connected to this whole incredible mechanism of 
1:39:15 
creation and that you're like you know part of this Universal Network thinking 
1:39:22 
MH that your thinking matters that it's part it's like one bit in the Universal 
1:39:29 
brain if you'd like and that like you have your role to play yeah like someone 
1:39:34 
said the sum total of all Minds in the universe is one exactly right but we're participating in the one mind uniquely 
1:39:42 
as our unique participation so that the the universe is a seamless but not 
1:39:49 
featuress you know experience like you're the trillions of neurons you know 
1:39:55 
firing in your brain right they collectively produce coherent thoughts 
1:40:00 
right and all the and so you can think so so to to actually land that to to 
1:40:08 
integrate that that you're not isolated that you're connected that you're part 
1:40:14 
of a that there's a fundamental pulse of creation at the source of your existence 
1:40:19 
I think that's really profound and there's many layers to that realization 
1:40:25 
you know there's many layers to and and and to do that like now you have 
1:40:32 
mechanical equations you have you know how to get get there right you know you 
1:40:38 
have to go instead of outside the Event Horizon which is the radiative side you 
1:40:44 
know you have to go inside the Event Horizon right you and it's not in uh 
1:40:51 
esoteric way you literally you have to integrate which is really powerful for 
1:40:56 
spiritual thoughts you have to integrate your physicality instead of trying to 
1:41:03 
separate which is a lot of what this spiritual uh behaviors tend to do uh 
1:41:10 
instead of separate from the physical world you want to integrate the phys you 
1:41:16 
want to go inside because that's where Singularity is right so to to start to experience 
1:41:24 
yourself as 100 trillion cells for instance right you think I'm one person 
1:41:29 
but I'm not one person I'm 100 trillion cells it's non-trivial right and and every second 
1:41:36 
I'm making millions of cells right every second I'm I'm dividing about a million 
1:41:42 
cell and and and every and there's billions of chemical changes occurring 
1:41:48 
for me to continue to be here and if that thing decco air you know like I was 
1:41:55 
saying if you start heating up by a few degrees it's not going to be good if your if your blood plasma you know 
1:42:02 
change pH by 01 of degree uh uh 0.1 um 
1:42:08 
you know alkaline or acid uh you're not feeling well if it's going 02 you're 
1:42:16 
like seriously sick and you're near death three you're dead right so like 
1:42:22 
you know like this incredible thing that's happening that's keeping you 
1:42:28 
alive right this incredible organization that you're part 
1:42:34 
of is keeping you alive it's a pulse you know they and and 
1:42:39 
so to to integrate that at the biological level is one thing but then if you go further and you go even 
1:42:47 
further inside yourself and integrate that each of these cell is made of 100 trillion atom 
1:42:54 
now you've gone to the level in which you're like you can start to experience yourself as like you know photons of 
1:43:02 
light emission and light absorption and you know you start to see yourself more as a I think what ancient civilization 
1:43:09 
describe as the light being that you are you know you know Soul or whatever you 
1:43:16 
know but through the material world not separate mhm now so the non-material 
1:43:22 
entity ities which you know 25 years on The Psychotic path I encounter non-material entities and even the 
1:43:28 
non-material entities of past living things right in some way I guess I could 
1:43:34 
look at that as I'm accessing the memory of what was once a physical entity 
1:43:40 
that's right you you very good you you're accessing the information of that 
1:43:46 
entity continuing on its path it does it the information that cannot this very 
1:43:53 
clear principle of conservation of information in physics that show you you 
1:43:58 
can't lose that information when an entity set of information cannot be lost 
1:44:05 
MH so it's it's not limited to being in the 
1:44:11 
physical but you see this is where we get in problem in in trouble with words 
1:44:16 
because when I'm saying information I'm information in in physics is is 
1:44:22 
equivalent to energy I'm still talking about something physical right mhm it's just not in the 
1:44:31 
physicality of a body mhm but it's still an energy that's cannot be lost yeah and 
1:44:39 
so it can continue on its path and it can and it's absolutely valid that it 
1:44:44 
could reorganize into something that has a body right which is reincarnation 
1:44:50 
which is the concept of reincarnation yeah and and so this but this this non-physical entity is not made of atoms 
1:44:59 
at this point it's made of energy and remember I've I've shown that atoms is 
1:45:05 
just coherent energy right right so it's it's it's coherent coherent energy 
1:45:13 
Beyond the Horizon of mass right exactly it's it's energy that's still coherent 
1:45:18 
yeah but at a different state of density mhm in the energy scales of our 
1:45:26 
universe yeah you see and and at that's at that density of information in the 
1:45:34 
energy Scale of the Universe to you at this density it appears like it's not 
1:45:40 
there anymore yeah you you've lost communication capability with this 
1:45:45 
information set yeah or you might have communication capabilities but then 
1:45:51 
people think you're or you're you know or Channel Channeler or whatever what's interesting about 
1:45:58 
this is like these non-physical entities can impact can impact my physical my 
1:46:04 
physical body like I can feel them when I'm in a journey I can feel when these entities I had this iasa experience 
1:46:10 
recently where this giant mantis being was like this massive interdimensional 
1:46:16 
Doctor Who was going in and fixing things and I could feel when it would it felt like light but it was going inside 
1:46:22 
my body body and like the the in iwasa they call them the doctos or this this 
1:46:27 
Grand doctor that was just adjusting and manipulating you know the actual mass 
1:46:33 
and and field of energy in my own in my own body through the etheric field and right and there yeah and and we can do 
1:46:40 
that to each other this field of information we control it right which is 
1:46:45 
like the mirror neuron effect the energy that we're we're sharing with each other that's impacting each other because 
1:46:50 
we're all entangled through this field through the field yeah and we can we can 
1:46:56 
so so you're saying what is the one of the impact well when you understand the mechanics of this field you understand 
1:47:03 
the atoms You're Made Of and the information that is you inside these 
1:47:08 
atom is uh interacting with this field then you can say okay well you know I 
1:47:13 
feel like my liver needs a little more energy right which is typically always 
1:47:20 
for me because I I I push I put my liver to the test yes I'm very 
1:47:28 
guilty and and you you can direct this energy and and people that are good at 
1:47:34 
directing this energy which was well known by like 
1:47:40 
taii yeah these people are called healers right because they can direct 
1:47:47 
this energy and help recover you know from C certain regions in your body that 
1:47:53 
might uh start decohering because they're uh becoming 
1:47:59 
separate there's a decoherence in that region of of space and and and the 
1:48:04 
coherence it can become decoherent when there's a lack of energy right so there's one Otto von warberg has this 
1:48:11 
metabolic theory of cancer which I think is very interesting which is saying that cancer develops from a failure of the 
1:48:17 
mitochondria to produce sufficient energy very good and how does the mitochondria 
1:48:23 
produce energy do you know the Krab cycle I I don't know yeah but it's it's 
1:48:29 
a little motor electromagnetic motor that's spinning like a bad out of hell 
1:48:36 
it's a the the mitochondria has all these little mortars that are separating electrons from protons and creating a 
1:48:43 
potential an energy potential they're spinning at like 60 6,000 RPM if you're doing nothing but 
1:48:51 
if you're running a marathon they're spinning at 60,000 RPM mhm these little 
1:48:57 
Motors and and and and in a marathon you will you will recycle approximate going 
1:49:05 
through these motors approximately a ton of ATP which is the molecule of energy 
1:49:11 
of your cells and when these motors start to break down they start not 
1:49:16 
spinning as well and not spinning as fast and all this they start and by the 
1:49:21 
way they're doing this in water right so it's fluid dynamics I want to remind 
1:49:27 
right and and and when they start to break down then the cells start to make 
1:49:33 
errors and it's dividing and this is literally getting old yeah so it's a it's in we're not 
1:49:42 
actually supplying the sufficient amount of energy to keep coherence and keep so it starts 
Advanced Human Capabilities
1:49:48 
decohering so that it can reorganize at a different energy level 
1:49:53 
and and when but knowing this knowing that that 
1:49:59 
pulse that's making all this work is coming from the Zero Point Energy you 
1:50:06 
can with the right technology recare the space inside your body so that this 
1:50:14 
decoherence does not happen or reverse the decoherence by improving the 
1:50:20 
mitochondria so one of the treatments that Travis Christopherson talks about one of this one of the treatments to 
1:50:26 
support the mitochondria to produce more energy right is restricted ketogenic 
1:50:31 
diets which actually allow you to get you know Ketone energy Fuel and also 
1:50:37 
rehabilitate the mitochondria along with hyperbaric oxygen so you're packing in more oxygen more energy that's coming 
1:50:44 
from these oxygen molecules also breath work can do this so you're packing the body with more vital life force energy 
1:50:50 
triggering an increase Thea and then that the body the 
1:50:56 
miraculous you know capability that's possible it's really about how much 
1:51:02 
energy can you put back into the body whereas on the other side it's like okay let's attack the cancer and then you do 
1:51:08 
all of these treatments radiation and chemotherapy which is sucking the energy out of your body there's a good chance 
1:51:14 
it's going to decohere you to the point that yeah you've killed the cancer but you killed the guy with it right right 
1:51:21 
and so so there may be specific instances where this is important for this specific thing but fundamentally 
1:51:26 
underneath that you have to be supporting your vital life force energy which is about your thoughts your 
1:51:32 
beliefs your connection to the the field the information that you're moving 
1:51:37 
through the feedback of your field exactly when you talk about thoughts and 
1:51:43 
beliefs and how you're functioning in the world this is what you're sending in the field and that's what the field is 
1:51:49 
sending you back as your reality right this is the feedback I'm talking about 
1:51:54 
like that that is you're in charge of that one that's your job right you're 
1:52:01 
not taking care of the 100 billion you know chemical change that has to happen every second for you to stay coherent 
1:52:08 
but you have you have the responsibility of what you're putting in the field your 
1:52:13 
interpretation of the field so that the field can feed you back what you can you 
1:52:19 
know the the best experience right and and so really that that's really 
1:52:25 
important to know like you see there's so many implications um because there's 
1:52:31 
remarkable things there's all sorts of anomalies you have people in India and I 
1:52:37 
I've played with it I'm just going to leave it at that uh that don't eat like 
1:52:43 
there's a famous case of a guy that was studied by NASA you know like you know 
1:52:49 
they put him in a chamber where they measured everything the guy hasn't ate since he was 
1:52:55 
18 he was in his 70s I believe or late 60s when they did the test okay the guy 
1:53:04 
doesn't eat doesn't drink um you so a breatharian yeah brarian right and 
1:53:09 
that's real oh absolutely wow I've talked to the doctors that did the test 
1:53:15 
you know they were all mind blown right they couldn't believe it you know um and 
1:53:22 
like they they have like scans of his bladder filling up with only absorbing the only 
1:53:28 
thing that can account for that is I mean it seems like at some point he would have to replenish the water itself 
1:53:35 
though right well that's what I was saying because eventually sweat but so he stopped sweating he stopped sweating 
1:53:42 
he stopped sweating he could he was not sweating we're talking somebody you if you put him in a sauna he'd be [ __ ] 
1:53:49 
maybe I don't know I don't know if they tried that but I the the guy you know 
1:53:55 
and and I mean it's remarkable but those are tests that were 
1:54:01 
done by NASA and very serious scientists in India um and the only thing that can 
1:54:06 
that can account for that is the is this Zero Point Energy that we have access to consider 
1:54:13 
this there is a problem in the current views of 
1:54:21 
nourishment meaning when you're recycling a ton of 
1:54:27 
ATP when you run a marathon do you really think that it came from the eggs and bacon you ate that 
1:54:33 
morning right I mean I tend to believe and you know from 
1:54:40 
personal experience I don't need to discuss but you know that 
1:54:46 
actually everybody is feeding off this fundamental pulse of energy MH at the 
1:54:53 
quantum scale and actually the paper I'm about to publish in biophysics demonstrate the scaling that produce you 
1:55:00 
know the the activity of the brain but when when you when you think of it this 
1:55:07 
way then you could say maybe I'm just supplementing 
1:55:13 
because when you calculate the amount of energy it takes to break down the food get it into your blood get the glucose 
1:55:21 
getting into the mitochondria all this and the amount of energy you're burning 
1:55:27 
every day it doesn't add up it doesn't add up so it's like 
1:55:34 
there's a deficiency somewhere there's another source of energy let's put it that way but at some point at some point 
1:55:41 
that is not rigorously done and it needs to be done rigorously I just want to put 
1:55:46 
that as a caveat I know that NASA did some tests you know they made a su where 
1:55:52 
they could like completely enclose like calculate all the energy the the body 
1:55:59 
uses and all this which is it's it's remarkable it's it's significant amount 
1:56:05 
of energy um and uh yeah it doesn't it doesn't quite add up it seems like you 
1:56:12 
know even in this case let's assume that this case is true and this guy didn't eat from 18 it seems like for the growth 
1:56:18 
necessary to reach the maturity of the body he probably did need to with different proteins and different 
1:56:24 
particular forms he did need to eat a child needs to nurse at the breast you know to actually build build and grow 
1:56:31 
and grow but once you reach a point of stasis like this guy's not gaining weight no you know because he because 
1:56:38 
that would require that would require more yeah more supplementation but he walked every day a few kilometers every 
1:56:46 
morning and every night so he was able to replenish the energy that he was burning from this alternative energy 
1:56:51 
source exactly that's you know that's really mind BL I always thought I always thought breatharians were just closet they just 
1:56:58 
they just ate in a quiet secret and drank in a quiet secret place I'm sure there's some of those but that's another 
1:57:05 
thing I'm sure there's some of those yeah but because it's the ultimate Flex it's like what what's your diet breath 
1:57:12 
yeah yes but you know there's remarkable things I mean um there is all kinds of 
1:57:19 
organization now that are showing kids out to see without their eyes mhm you 
1:57:24 
know I've seen I've seen some of that it's remarkable you know there's a there's a thing called Viber Vision a 
1:57:31 
group of people in the US that are teaching that there's people in India teaching that all this and it's 
1:57:36 
remarkable these kids literally you know you blindfold them like they can catch 
1:57:42 
balls yeah we've put sensored in there you know to make sure there's no photons 
1:57:48 
going in right and and make sure they cannot see right they cannot see they 
1:57:54 
have like patches on their eye plus a mask and everything and and they read a book and they don't have to open it you 
1:58:02 
know it's [ __ ] remarkable you know why because they're accessing 
1:58:08 
information that's in the field mhm right so so one of the key these are 
1:58:15 
remarkable things of course and and I think one of the key things that I've really the reason why you know in you're 
1:58:22 
very generous in complimenting my mind the reason why I I believe that I have any intelligence at all is because I've 
1:58:31 
practiced the art and and actually the medicine lineage and Technology of 
1:58:37 
accessing the field like so much of the information that I'm getting is for me accessing the field Beyond me so it's 
1:58:43 
like it just feels like a blessing that I'm able to create the bridge yeah and 
1:58:49 
it's you know it has its own problems because in the bridge gets translated through it I'm not always fully right and things mature and evolve but but the 
1:58:57 
accessing to this field of information which is what allows all of these 
1:59:02 
Mystics and all these ancient Traditions to access information that was Bey far beyond the comprehension that they yeah 
1:59:09 
consider that maybe all creative thoughts you know all 
1:59:16 
discoveries mhm they came if you when when Einstein was asked where did you 
1:59:21 
come up with this you know it's like you know it was internal you know uh Imaging and gut 
1:59:30 
feeling and you know like instinct and you know he said like himself you know 
1:59:38 
that that instinct or imagination is more important than facts right because 
1:59:44 
that's the source now eventually you have to like make sure that the facts 
1:59:50 
work with what you came up with but but where like you know creativity 
1:59:57 
where does it come from it's an internal thing or like the pro the Musical prodigies who can just sit down at a 
2:00:04 
piano and play a concerto right you know they're like channeling into a a rhythm and a vibrational pattern in the and 
2:00:11 
they're just able to translate that into music translate that you know so many people who' have had a dream and then 
Evolution of Civilization
2:00:17 
come out with an entire composition based on this dream you're accessing the the field of field of information of 
2:00:24 
information and and and I would suggest that your Consciousness is exactly that 
2:00:31 
is accessing the field of information acting on it your interpretation of it 
2:00:37 
and your action in the field produce a reaction from the field that we call 
2:00:44 
reality M right yeah so it it's really 
2:00:52 
profound yes when you start to connect at that level it's really profound and I 
2:00:58 
want to say it's typically not understood in its 
2:01:03 
mechanics and and we can write the mechanics of such a thing it's not 
2:01:10 
outside uh science it's not outside physics it's not like another 
2:01:17 
dimension it's not like that stuff doesn't it's all here it's all one thing 
2:01:23 
it's not separate it's one thing and that and that Revel the revelation of 
2:01:29 
the interconnectedness of everything you realize that you can't do anything 
2:01:34 
harmful to anybody else or a planet or anything else that is actually not doing 
2:01:40 
harm to yourself yourself course which creates a whole different set of morality exactly in which you have to 
2:01:47 
create a reciprocal balance and hopefully a net Surplus where you're adding to life 
2:01:52 
rather than subtracting from life exactly and so you know people say oh 
2:01:57 
but humans will always fight we'll always kill each other we'll always destroy I don't agree with those 
2:02:04 
statements I think that hum must naturally babies are peaceful right 
2:02:09 
naturally they we we've just been tweaked you know we have so much trauma 
2:02:14 
like even just the first few seconds when we're born here like the amount of trauma we experience and and and so but 
2:02:23 
I I don't think that's a natural state I I think I think that a society that 
2:02:29 
understands these fundamental principles and this is one of the reason as well that I don't believe in you know uh 
2:02:37 
offensive you know extraterrestrials uh because I think that a society that reach higher level 
2:02:43 
of awareness and understanding of the mechanics of the universe automatically arrive to that level where in this 
2:02:50 
Society law would not be required because everybody knows when they're 
2:02:56 
doing good and everybody knows when they're doing something that's hurting others or hurting themsel and this is 
2:03:03 
this is a place where personally I would I would potentially disagree with this so I want you to follow me on this 
2:03:10 
potential idea of entities or groups of civilizations that could actually be 
2:03:16 
extractive so if you reduce if you reduce and this is the idea of aramon from theose a crucian tradition the idea 
2:03:23 
of Arman is you look at the field of energy and Through The Eyes of Christ let's say the the christic impulse you 
2:03:29 
see the field as love and you see the actual in the interconnectedness but if you reduce it to power just power so the 
2:03:36 
field is just power then you could create a Morality In which power is the 
2:03:42 
only thing that matters and your goal is to accumulate the maximum amount of power for yourself so it's service to 
2:03:49 
self based upon a power dynamic I want myself to have the most power possible 
2:03:54 
yeah this is pretty well the state of our world right now this is exactly what's happening in our world and that could fra that could and I think believe 
2:04:02 
does fractal up higher where there's if we go the wrong way we can create a 
2:04:07 
world in which there's beings that are just reducing themselves to a hierarchy where there's ultimately one being so 
2:04:14 
right now it's probably a bunch of Elites but there's all the elites will compete and compete and compete until 
2:04:20 
there's one being that accumulates all of the Power and then has the has the right to extract energy from all of the 
2:04:28 
other things and that and that extends that can happen I agree and I believe that has that has happened and there up 
2:04:36 
so there's a there's a stopping point there is because the system will self 
2:04:41 
destroy the the system will self disorganize eventually it it's not sustainable the nature of the universe 
2:04:49 
is not so so it's not sustainable it cannot a society like this will 
2:04:55 
self-destruct like look at ours in 150 years of um you know uh scientific 
2:05:02 
Evolution we're on the Brinks right and well it may self-destruct but let's say 
2:05:07 
let's take do you ever see uh read Dune or you watch any of the Dune movies yeah I watch the Dune movies okay so imagine 
2:05:14 
you remember the Harkins the Harkins are you know the what the house of Trades is 
2:05:19 
fighting against and they're this pale kind of homogeneous and they have a very clear hierarchy where the leader of the 
2:05:26 
heinens can do anything they want to any of the other people and but there's an absolute top- down totalitarian 
2:05:33 
domination domination model I understand what you're saying I the reason I disagree is because um that's true 
2:05:42 
politically or socially you can do that right but it will not lead you to 
2:05:49 
technology in which you can go across the universe right so if if somebody's 
2:05:56 
visiting from across the universe they figured fundamental principles of creation mhm and if they have that then 
2:06:04 
they understand that everything understand that whenever they do arm they're doing arm to themselves they 
2:06:11 
they understand that if they don't understand that they self- destroyed long before they pass their Moon you 
2:06:18 
know look at our society we're on the Brinks we barely passed the moon and 
2:06:23 
some people would you know debate that um you know and and so we you know like 
2:06:31 
like us for instance going to like with this way of doing things where all the 
2:06:39 
power is concentrated to a few individuals we're about to self-destruct 
2:06:44 
right we wouldn't make it across the solar system never mind across you know 
2:06:51 
to another solar system to it's we we H we can't develop the tools and the 
2:06:59 
understanding necessary using this kind of mentality M 
2:07:06 
and so so I don't see how an advanced civilization like for instance let let 
2:07:13 
me give you in another in another context imagine your civilization that has gravity control and vacuum and 
2:07:21 
energy uh technology you have pretty well all the energy you can ever need 
2:07:27 
anywhere you are right and you can travel across the Galaxy let's say or 
2:07:32 
even you know intergalactically right in organic alone 
2:07:40 
there's last centory is about 40 billion 
2:07:45 
planets and that's very conservative mhm that's one Galaxy let's say have access 
2:07:52 
to that why would you need right to take 
2:07:58 
over the Earth right for instance right which is a small because you already have access to Infinite Energy you have 
2:08:03 
access to Infinite Energy infinite resources if you want gold you you can 
2:08:09 
you have chunks of gold that are floating around that the size of continent right so you get gold right if 
2:08:15 
you you don't go and mess with a planet if anything when you go to a planet you 
2:08:21 
going to try to make it evolve faster right you're going to try to support it let help it flourish because you know 
2:08:29 
that more people there is more viewpoints there is more the universe is 
2:08:35 
growing more viewpoints you know more there neurons in the system right so you 
2:08:40 
you you want that to happen so you're going to encourage that and I would suggest and this is just my opinion but 
2:08:48 
from the research I've done on this planet that there is evidence that there 
2:08:53 
was encouragement at one point no I agree with that I agree with that completely all right but let's say then 
2:08:59 
let's say then you are in this service to self mentality right and there's just 
2:09:04 
like our bodies there's there's an entropy that naturally occurs where we're going to dissolve back into back 
2:09:11 
into a different form we're going to transform but what if we say I don't want to transform I want to stay as the 
2:09:19 
entity that I am and the only way that I can source that I can't source that I 
2:09:25 
can't undo the force of entropy that's trying to dissolve me back into the all which is Perpetual life is a beautiful 
2:09:31 
process but if I can vampiric or parasitically harvest energy from some 
2:09:38 
other civilization some other planet some other people I can use that to supplement my own energy so that I can 
2:09:44 
stay alive longer and all I care about is that I stay alive longer not that 
2:09:50 
life exists right right so do you think that that to me is where I believe that 
2:09:55 
this does could go a little farther is is beings that are unwilling to 
2:10:01 
transform it's not um you mean eternal life well there yeah they're unwilling 
2:10:08 
to surrender their temporal form so there is on our planet currently animals 
2:10:13 
that are Eternal so if you look up it you know uh uh Eternal uh animals or if 
2:10:21 
you look up you know uh uh um yeah you will find you know there's like uh uh 
2:10:29 
Jellyfish and actually lobsters um they die because their shell 
2:10:35 
don't grow as fast as they do and all this but uh Jellyfish that are can be Eternal um you 
2:10:43 
know if they don't get eaten by a CH or whatever but you know the the there's 
2:10:48 
multiple species um not just a few like this quite a bit of them that are 
2:10:54 
Eternal um so the idea that cell can be 
2:10:59 
stay coherent and continue to redo themsel and you know not lose energy and 
2:11:05 
decoherent is clearly demonstrated in our world is possible okay 
2:11:13 
um but somebody that's doing what you just describe um would be you you have to 
2:11:21 
consider what they would have to so so let me make it clear because I don't 
2:11:28 
want to be misunderstood do I believe you can make technology so that you can be immortal 
2:11:36 
absolutely what I'm telling you is that to get to that technology you're going 
2:11:42 
to have to have the level of Consciousness right so there's no 
2:11:48 
decoupling at the ultimate level of the consciousness with technology the universe is fail is fail safe yes it 
2:11:58 
cannot civilization cannot reach huge level of like technology and and 
2:12:05 
completely destroy the universe right because and be completely 
2:12:10 
unaware okay but what about this what about this scenario so so step Greer I don't know if you're familiar with his 
2:12:16 
work he's basically saying that there's in his belief that there's we've 
2:12:22 
accessed the technology just the technology to be able to access the Zero 
2:12:28 
Point Energy yeah but the people in this you know kind of deep State you know 
2:12:33 
world the people many inventors have yeah many many other inventors have as well but most of them are dead yeah like 
2:12:41 
Tesla and you know I think he was he was close to getting this or maybe got it right but we've somehow accessed 
2:12:49 
unnaturally by recovered cra and by other other different things and kept that and so we've we have access te to 
2:12:56 
technology that's beyond our Consciousness so there's a there's a Delta there's a gap there's a gap and so 
2:13:03 
we could weaponize that technology because our Consciousness hasn't caught up to understand the nature of that we 
2:13:08 
haven't thought it through yeah you can you can reach certain levels this way then but then there is there's a limit 
2:13:15 
to it because when you go down that path of this advanced technology eventually 
2:13:22 
that technology is tuned to the same dynamics of feedback of the universe 
2:13:28 
right the will of karma yeah okay and so you're increasing in power but if you're 
2:13:36 
the technology you're using is is tuning to your level of Consciousness yeah you 
2:13:42 
can look at it that feedback in the current technology our level 
2:13:48 
Consciousness not so high sure there's a Delta right now between our technology 
2:13:53 
and our cons exactly and the technology is about to destroy us because our level 
2:13:59 
of consciousness of how we're using it is not so good right and so basically I mean we're literally shooting at each 
2:14:06 
other and killing children you know and so with it right 
2:14:12 
so but so this becomes so it's self-destructive yes right so this 
2:14:18 
becomes very dramatic when the Technologies like for instance a 
2:14:24 
singularity in a in a in a in a crystal ball let call it right and it's in 
2:14:32 
contact with your awareness and you're trying to destroy with it it will kill you it will decohere you instantaneously 
Belief Systems & Models
2:14:40 
it's like the feedback now is like instantaneous instead of taking 10 
2:14:45 
generation it takes 10 seconds right yeah he also talks about and one of the things 
2:14:52 
is technology assisted Consciousness or Consciousness assisted technology where actually the technology and the 
2:14:58 
Consciousness actually have to be linked so the way that these crafts move is through accessing the field of 
2:15:03 
Consciousness and if you're accessing the field of Consciousness you you can't take it peace meal you got to take it the whole way you know this was best 
2:15:11 
represented in um in fighter uh Pilots 
2:15:17 
that um you know I think it was in the late '90s 
2:15:23 
2000s um maybe a little bit later on um I was aware of this because you know 
2:15:30 
people talk to me that are from inside organizations I'm just going to leave it 
2:15:37 
at that and you the the fighter pilots were too slow reactive to the speed of 
2:15:44 
the planes mhm and uh it was becoming a problem and they wanted to explore how 
2:15:50 
they can hook the control of the plane directly to the brain right with sensors 
2:15:58 
and all kinds of things so that and there is some of that in Pilot but the the it was a there was a problem because 
2:16:05 
if the pilot had a bad day that morning got in a big fight with his wife 
2:16:13 
whatever something happened they were emotionally not like the sensors would 
2:16:18 
go off you know the chart and and like the plane was bouncing all over the place and you know it was no good right 
2:16:26 
and so they taught their pilots uh to 
2:16:31 
meditate so that they could like calm themselves and be Rico here be coherent 
2:16:38 
and all this and not have the sensor go off scales right well after they got the 
2:16:46 
pilots to start meditating you know daily and meditation practice and you 
2:16:53 
know all the things that go with him eventually the pilots were like okay we're really good at controlling the 
2:16:59 
plane but we're not willing to shoot at people you know we're not willing to 
2:17:06 
drop the bombs right where like because they reach levels of awareness they're 
2:17:13 
going wait I don't want to kill other people right you see see it's linked you 
2:17:19 
can't couple the two all right so then what about the what about the belief systems 
2:17:25 
like uh Zoroastrianism or even parts of Christianity which say that in polarity 
2:17:30 
there's the force of good life expansion you know the Consciousness that we're 
2:17:35 
talking about um and that's auro Mazda you know which is like all things that 
2:17:41 
are good life all of this love and then there's angru or Arman on the other side 
2:17:47 
which is the antithesis of that and that there's these natural forces in the cosmos that's still all true yeah that's 
2:17:54 
still all true but we as participating in a body we're already on team life we're already already part of Team you 
2:18:01 
know team Aur Mazda but think of it this way let's say our world got this level of Technology became enlightened and all 
2:18:08 
this and this planet became paceful okay that doesn't mean that there's not other planets in the universe that are at a 
2:18:16 
lower level of evolution and haven't figured that out yet yeah it's still 
2:18:21 
happening it's just that which side of the fence are you on right and it and 
2:18:28 
it's not white or black it's gray it's a it's all gray scale there's no perfect 
2:18:35 
white there's no perfect black it's all gray scale like it's where you are and 
2:18:41 
the level of consciousness of your you know Collective that's where you place in the 
2:18:48 
in the gray Scale of the Universe between white and black you know I don't believe in evil I don't like it it 
2:18:57 
doesn't that you know it would be like Darkness uh darkness is just the absence 
2:19:03 
of light right it's it's not a thing right no yeah Darkness isn't the ABS but there would there could be something 
2:19:10 
called anti-light which would be the antithesis of light right but it and 
2:19:15 
okay and that would still be how anti-light are you you like where on the 
2:19:21 
gray scale are you right so like for instance you know you you meet people 
2:19:28 
and you say oh you know they're they're more loving or they're less loving or 
2:19:33 
you know like there this there's all kinds of scales of evolution right and and you might have 
2:19:40 
noticed in your life there's definitely jump you know there's definitely like a 
2:19:47 
horizon where you like you comprehend something right all of a sudden you like 
2:19:52 
it it lands on you oh my God right and and then you got it and then 10 minutes 
2:19:58 
before you you hadn't had it right and then you got to integrate and it takes 
2:20:04 
time but still you can think that like a civilization collectively can all of a 
2:20:10 
sudden integrate that we're part of a field that everything we do in that field is interacting with everything and 
2:20:18 
and developed and and realiz that like oh wow we're we're so interconnected we 
2:20:24 
need to be careful what we do how we treat each other and all this like this can happen especially if that 
2:20:33 
comprehension is not just a spiritual awakening but it's actually a physics 
2:20:38 
Awakening like uh here's the mechanics on how we are all connected here is how 
2:20:45 
it works and here's the technology you can build so you can work on the 
2:20:50 
intercon it can work on the interconnection of the universe and so now you have infinite amount of energy 
2:20:57 
you can get any so why would you fight for energy no I get it so I I agree with 
2:21:02 
you that there's no there's no being that we know inest especially incarnated 
2:21:07 
being that is absolute evil or absolute good right but there's some we're all participating in some scale between good 
2:21:15 
and evil in some and there is in any grayscale there's the terminal point of that grayscale which is absolute if 
2:21:21 
you're looking at just color which is you know I think a problem be but you look at it there will be the point on 
2:21:28 
this on the gradient of absolute light call it the Christ and then there'll be the point of absolute absolute black 
2:21:34 
which call it Aron and you might fluctuate and and you are somewhere somewhere in the dance you're never 
2:21:41 
you're never going to reach absolute unless maybe you say oh Christ actually reached absolute in that well you might 
2:21:48 
you might reach absolute I I I I I I mean the fundamental message of I 
2:21:54 
like to call him Emanuel as he's described in the Bible um was that 
2:21:59 
everybody can get there right like that was the the core of his message you will do greater things than I did you know 
2:22:06 
yeah totally and so so that's the that's the potential that he actually opened up in the memory in the possibility in the 
2:22:12 
memory and the possibility is he reached the potential right of absolute love and you might fluctuate meaning you might be 
2:22:19 
in that state one moment and the next moment somebody cut you off on the highway and now you're flipping him off 
2:22:25 
right like and you even saw that transformation happen even in the Christ at the moment on the cross where the 
2:22:31 
first was you know why have you forsaken me as he was talking like which is this moment of Doubt moment in which was and 
2:22:38 
then he eventually forgave forgave forgave even the soldiers who were throwing dice to take take his garments 
2:22:45 
and his enemies who were crucifying him in the most horrible way and so ultimately went out you know he exited 
2:22:52 
if you believe the story and the myth he exited in in Purity in peace yeah yeah 
2:22:58 
in h and but and that that's available to you yes that's available to you 
2:23:05 
anytime you like you you know how many times people have done wrong to you and 
2:23:12 
you know it hurt and it was painful whatever but eventually you got to the 
2:23:17 
place where like I I bless them love thy enemy yeah I love them for the lesson 
2:23:23 
I've learned and you know and I wish them the best right and and so it's it's 
2:23:29 
something that's available right it's not and and I think you know the the 
2:23:35 
Masters come and they give us examples of what is possible and typically 
2:23:41 
they're the first one to say that's available to you you know you can do 
2:23:47 
this you don't have to venerate me you can do it yourself like you have access 
2:23:54 
um they're the first one to do that but then the people around them typically after they're gone start religions and 
2:24:00 
all kinds of things and use that for their own create power structures Etc exactly yeah I guess I I guess for me I 
2:24:08 
just I fundamentally do believe that people can also as we can access our potential for light love we can also 
2:24:15 
access our potential for Darkness or evil like like Hitler was an antithesis 
2:24:21 
to C that decoheres pretty quick yeah massive destruction yeah that's massive 
2:24:26 
destruction and if they succeed then it's the whole thing is gone the whole thing it's a w yeah it's a WRA and then 
2:24:33 
let's say that the information is not lost like we talked about before well maybe they continue on another planet 
2:24:39 
doing that until they get it that like shooting yourself in the foot is not the best way which is why good always wins 
2:24:45 
in the end yeah well eventually it goes up the scale towards White Hope right 
2:24:51 
right well it it has to because the other Force is destru is destructive by its very nature and so if the universe 
2:24:57 
is expanding life is cohering in different intimacy patterns and and complexities you know it it must must 
2:25:05 
ultimately succeed whatever doesn't work it decoheres and reorganize into something that works yeah yeah so this 
2:25:11 
destruction is always a part of creation that's right I mean if you didn't have 
2:25:17 
what we are calling the dark Loosely right you wouldn't have learned anything right right you fell so that you could 
2:25:24 
walk right your opponent is your evolutionary partner that's right right yeah I believe that I believe that 100% 
2:25:30 
that the darkness serves the light It ultimately shows us where we're decohering and invites us to a greater 
2:25:37 
level of coherence and love this is literally those I mean Loosely speaking 
2:25:43 
this is those correlation function equation that show that like overall you 
2:25:49 
get a plus right you get you get more and because you have to get the thing to 
2:25:55 
keep spinning it's going to continue to evolve whether you're you're on the gray 
2:26:01 
scale over there or you're on the gray scale over there it's going to continue to evolve you know like whether earth 
2:26:08 
makes it through this little evolutionary moment that we're experiencing right now or not it will 
2:26:14 
continue to evolve is there a point where the universe collapses back into a 
2:26:21 
singularity I've I've seen like because we think of the expansion that comes from a big bang at a plunk scale you 
2:26:28 
know minuscule amount that a burst of energy of infinite capacity and and 
2:26:34 
again you may have some alternate theories of that but it always seemed like this was like breathing in a way 
2:26:39 
like the universe is going to expand and then at a certain point it's going to reach its its terminal velocity and all 
2:26:44 
the complexity is going to be reached and then it'll collapse back into Singularity and then expand again into a new you know univ I I remember if you if 
2:26:53 
there's no Center to hold it it cannot exist right so when it's expanding it's 
2:27:02 
just because you're experiencing that part that's expanding out from it right but it's constantly claing at the same 
2:27:10 
time uhhuh remember for every bit that goes out there's a bit that goes in 
2:27:15 
right so it's continuous the inhale and exhale is happening at plun seconds yeah exactly 
2:27:23 
or depending at which scale you're measuring or sub plun or proton or you 
2:27:29 
know depending at which scale you're measuring the inhale exhale it's it's happening at that speed at that scale 
2:27:37 
right and so so then you you realize wow it's it's just an infinite cycle and and 
2:27:44 
that becomes really hard that you know when I figured that out I was in a van 
2:27:50 
I've lived in a van for five years I was you know in the desert in Joshua Tree 
2:27:56 
and I remember the moment very the good stuff no no no I was I was very very 
2:28:02 
pure at the time I I had you know touching anything but I was I I I was 
2:28:09 
climbing every morning climbing every night I was soloist and I 
2:28:14 
um I really had this moment where I realized wow it's an infinite cycle and 
2:28:20 
I had to let go of a beginning mhm and I had to let go of an end mhm and that was 
2:28:26 
hard I had to like stop you know 
2:28:31 
everything I was doing and like integrate for a few weeks like I 
2:28:36 
couldn't do any physics I couldn't study I couldn't do anything I was just like how do I let go of a 
2:28:42 
start yeah it's the chicken in the egg [ __ ] you know basically right it's like 
2:28:48 
yeah and then I when I and then I one point I integrated wow it's just a beautiful incredible cycle that I'm part 
2:28:54 
of uhhuh and I I can let go and and and and then my tension went back down and I 
2:29:02 
I was like okay I can just be infinite in 
2:29:08 
nature right I the information I am I mean that sounds all so esoteric but I 
2:29:16 
really I really impressed that it's coming from actually understanding the physics yeah um but you know it really 
2:29:24 
is remarkable when you when you let go because then you realize wow what a pro 
2:29:30 
like what an amazing process I'm in right right like this amazing 
2:29:37 
transformative world I'm living in that's constantly changing we don't 
2:29:43 
experience it so much because for instance we're making a million cells every second but like we don't see see 
2:29:50 
them being made and we don't see all the cells we're losing and so we just think of oursel as some stable thing or we're 
2:29:57 
on the planet flying through space at millions of kilometers a second and we 
2:30:04 
think it's all stable and you know we don't experience you know the the the 
2:30:10 
Dynamics of of the world where actually and the fragility of the world we we on 
2:30:16 
you know and so to actually like realized that I'm part of this amazing 
2:30:23 
mechanics of creation is very profound so then and so so I have another model 
2:30:30 
that comes from my friend matius Stefano I don't know if you're familiar with matius d but he met him a few times he's 
2:30:36 
lovely lovely man yeah sweet yeah really really love that brother yeah so he has 
2:30:41 
a nine-dimensional model of the of the cosmos and in this in the ninth Dimension it is the memory is completely 
2:30:48 
full right like every possibility every possibility has has occurred in this 
2:30:55 
which is kind of impossible for us to imagine it's Infinity it's an infinity of every possibility all you all 
2:31:01 
multiverses all everything all the memory is full and there creates a singularity event when the memory is 
2:31:07 
full because every different possibility has been recorded in in the in the 
2:31:13 
universe and at that moment there's a singularity which then Cycles back into 
2:31:19 
the first di menion of Singularity again which then restarts the process right 
2:31:25 
again so what would you say about that yeah it sounds like he's describing the multi- you know embedded bubble universe 
2:31:33 
that I was describing earlier um I don't like to use the word Dimension sure 
2:31:40 
because it means something different to the physicist than it means to the 
2:31:45 
spiritual people right and so it gets confusing uh but um I think that like 
2:31:52 
what well first of all I'd like to comment on one thing like it's hard to visualize Infinity it that is true if 
2:31:59 
you're trying to visualize infinitely big and which is what people typically do but actually if you try to visualize 
2:32:08 
infinitely small because it's within you you actually can get there you can't and 
2:32:16 
and as well as something that's really important about Infinity that people don't necessarily realize and that is 
2:32:24 
that um that caner which was an excellent mathematician that you know 
2:32:32 
was really not appreciated in his time um came up with 
2:32:37 
this proved generally that um that there 
2:32:43 
can be an infinite amount of Infinities and I I I I'm mentioning this and I like 
2:32:48 
to give him credit but you know because Infinities doesn't mean that there's no 
2:32:55 
boundary Infinities means that there can be infinite amount of boundaries embedded 
2:33:02 
within each other well you see yeah and now you can visualize infinite amount of 
2:33:09 
Infinities because from any boundary you can divide to Infinity right but it's still a confined 
2:33:17 
boundary you see yeah and so so and this is really what actually got me going 
2:33:24 
when I was 10 mhm the I I I I saw that because I was confused about Dimensions 
2:33:30 
the the teacher taught me dimensions and I didn't understand what he was talking about because he made a point and said 
2:33:37 
Dimension zero doesn't exist doesn't have volume I'm like well there's a point if there's a point there's 
2:33:43 
something right so what do you mean there's nothing like I I was already 
2:33:48 
lost I knew is going to fail that class geometry there's there's this one thing 
2:33:55 
that was shared with me which is like a like a and some Way's like a [ __ ] right so let's say you're imagining an arrow 
2:34:01 
that's moving towards a Target and at a certain time you know let's take half 
2:34:08 
the distance half the distance between the arrow and the target you take half that distance half that distance half 
2:34:14 
that distance yeah the the arrow is getting closer to the Target but you keep going half half half half to 
2:34:22 
Infinity there's eventually you could say well if you're there's still always half the distance it will never reach 
2:34:28 
the target the target how do you Recon how do you reconcile that I've never been able to fully reconcile that I 
2:34:34 
would I I can't remember the name of that theorem it's terrible I'm having a 
2:34:41 
senior moment but I I I so I excuse my laps but uh I yes this mathematically 
2:34:50 
can be resolved uhhuh the arrow will reach the target but conceptually it's an 
2:34:58 
important concept mhm conceptually the target 
2:35:04 
the what's important is infinite amount of Infinities that is even if the arrow has 
2:35:13 
cross the Horizon of the target MH it's still not touching anything 
2:35:21 
because oh there it is there it is because the molecules right that makes 
2:35:28 
up the arrow and the molecules that makes up the target are not touching they're quite the atoms are quite far 
2:35:35 
from each other I get it if you grow the at the atom of a of a diamond molecule 
2:35:42 
which is very dense right there some the densest material on Earth um to the size 
2:35:48 
of an orange the other Orange orange in the same molecule is two football fields away so there's a lot of space right and 
2:35:57 
and and then inside the the atom itself there's you know the atom is 
2:36:04 
99.999999% space yeah there's a little teeny thing in the middle we call the proton this is what I've been addressing 
2:36:11 
in physics that makes up the mass of the atom and all we can say about that thing 
2:36:19 
is that in that region of space there's a high density electrostatic field we 
2:36:24 
can't say really there's a boundary or you know it's it's it's basically a 
2:36:31 
field of density that we're describing so the arrow is infinitely penetrating 
2:36:36 
the target at infinitely small amounts which looks like it stops and eventually you would get to the plun scale right 
2:36:43 
yeah yeah so so so this is this is basic concepts that at 10 years old I start to 
2:36:51 
think okay how so then physics is must be singularized it must I didn't 
2:36:57 
understand black hole at the time I didn't understand Singularity but I had this concept of fractality that made 
2:37:04 
every Point go to infinity and I started to think okay well how how would the 
2:37:09 
world work under these conditions and that's what led to the physics I'm 
2:37:15 
writing today that's that's what an epic story and what an absolute pleasure it's been to sit here sit here with you if 
2:37:22 
you add a message as we as we wrap up this conversation which I very much hope we get to have more conversations this 
2:37:28 
has been just an absolute Delight for me thank you absolute Delight so if you had a if you had a message that you wanted 
2:37:34 
to share to humanity right now imagine this was broadcast to every single being 
2:37:41 
in on Earth at least you know imagining that other beings may not need this message but but if you're going to 
2:37:47 
message you know send a message to all being of Earth what would that message 
2:37:53 
be do not despair there is incredible 
2:37:58 
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2:38:06 
you're you're an incredible being part of an incredible like magical Universe 
2:38:14 
of infinite possibilities and you have incredible power 
2:38:21 
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2:38:27 
perspective is coming and so participate help help that 
2:38:35 
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2:38:44 
every human or most human have instinctively the sense that could 
2:38:52 
happen which is a utopian world where you know everybody has enough or more 
2:38:58 
than enough and um and uh you know we can be in peace with each other it is 
2:39:06 
possible it's just an evolutionary step we're going through right now and and 
2:39:12 
all the information everything is there for us to make this this leap to make 
2:39:18 
this step it's all there don't don't get discouraged because it's easy to get 
2:39:24 
discourage M it's really easy it's really and and you see people that are 
2:39:29 
wonderful people like you know lose um hope yeah there's so much possibility 
2:39:37 
it's so beautiful our future is so bright if we choose to go that route and 
2:39:43 
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2:40:23 
beautiful you know I think the the phrase that's repeated in the Bible the most is do not fear and and that means 
2:40:29 
you know have hope have hope do not fear never like don't let go of that like do not fear like there's a greater system 
2:40:35 
there's a greater thing that's driving this whole thing yeah and don't fall victim to that Despair and and go all in 
2:40:42 
for all life and play our part yeah the concept of faith is not faith of of an 
2:40:48 
institution it's faith of the UN I have faith yes that it the universe didn't 
2:40:54 
put us here for us to not have enough yeah 
2:40:59 
right this like look around you the universe is so energetic there's so much 
2:41:04 
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2:41:10 
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