 
 
  idnet at att.net wrote:
    David,
    
    You said:
    
    Science is "the systematic study of the physical word." and "Science" 
    is that of a skeptic. 
    An open minded investigator into the physical attributes of this world."
    
    On the flip side is Religion. "is the systematic study of the spiritual 
    world."
    
    I believe both definitions are far too narrow.
    
    I believe what demarcates science from religion is that the former is, as 
    you point out, skeptical, while religion is dogmatic. 
    Religion can be generally divided into the theistic and non-theistic varieties. 
    Both kinds of religion function to direct one's life. 
    
    Many sciences study non physical thinks like information and consciousness. 
    
    They also study the unobservables such as the cause of Dinosaur extinction 
    or the cause of the cambrian explosion and the origin of life. 
    Palenontology, much of geology and anthropology and archaeology study the 
    past as well.
    
    So, if your definitions are incorrect, then does your algorithm work?
    
    John Calvert 
    
  
 
    -------------- Original message from David Lynch <dnl1960 at yahoo.com>: 
    -------------- 
    John,
    
    Your question strikes at the heart of the equation. To answer that question, 
    lets look at the human experience in relation to a computer program.
    
    When I was a student in college, I learned computer programming while receiving 
    my degree in Artificial Intelligence. 
    One of the classes that stood out was algorithms and logic. In that course 
    of study I was exposed to the concept of scope.
    
    When writing a computer program, the scope of a variable is determined by 
    the functions that are initialized with
    a pointer to a memory location for the said variable. Depending on the actions 
    to be performed in the various functions, 
    an adequate amount of memory must be allocated. Else the program crashes.
    
    The human experience is the complete opposite of a computer program. At birth, 
    our memory locations 
    are set to a factory default of near blank. We are a function of time. As 
    we grow through our experiences, 
    each of us are systematically programmed. Words obtain meanings by allocating 
    memory of the fly.
    
    In the KnoWell, I use many variables like, Antiquity, History, Science, Birth, 
    Person, Life, Deity, Death, Religion, Future, and Eternity. 
    Using color codes, the variables are divided symmetrical into opposing forces.
    
    At the Ein Sof moment, all the variables are intermingled. They take on whatever 
    meaning you what. Pure Freedom. 
    However; the functionality of the KnoWell is like that of a varistor. A varistor 
    is a resistor that will change its resistance proportionally 
    to the amount of voltage applied. Moving away from the infinite moment changes 
    the meaning of the variables.
    
    The red Science at the bottom left of the KnoWell represents the systematic 
    study of the physical word. 
    However; since the KnoWell is a function like that of a varistor. Near the 
    Ein Sof point of the moment "Science" is that of a skeptic. 
    An open minded investigator into the physical attributes of this world. Represented 
    in the KnoWell by the upside down red cross. 
    Moving down the red line applying more voltage towards the c, Science becomes 
    fundamentally blind. 
    
    An example of a fundamentalist: Science cannot set up an experiment for the 
    Big Bang, so they look for signs that their position is correct. 
    Doing this puts them outside the confines of the scientific process. Entering 
    the realm of BLeaf 
    by putting forth a position of fact from an uncontrolled data set. They are 
    no longer willing to look at alternatives, 
    like their mathematical system is in error. The "zero" mistake.. 
    Newton blind.
    
    On the flip side is Religion. Using the same varistor functionality, the blue 
    Religion at the bottom right of the KnoWell 
    is the systematic study of the spiritual world. Near the Ein Sof point of 
    the moment "Religion" is that of a BLeaver. 
    An open minded investigator into the spiritual attributes of this world. Represented 
    in the KnoWell by the blue cross. 
    Moving down the blue line applying more voltage towards the c, Religion becomes 
    extremely blind. 
    
    An example of an extremist: Religion confines BLeafs into such limited views 
    that if a Christ were to knock on the Pope's door, 
    the pope would open the door looking for Jesus. Totally missing the Christ 
    that stands right before his face. 
    Extreme Christians are Jesus blind, and extreme Muslims are Mohamed Blind.
    
    Science states that a good theory will infer truths that can be discovered. 
    Since to me the KnoWell is a complex varistor of variables,
    I can see many things from its structure. One of those inferences takes me 
    back to algorithms and logic class.
    
    I picture the instructor walking into the Intellectual Design class 401 with 
    today's programmatic challenge. 
    
    I AM,
    Melt Antiquity, Balance Fate Vaporously with Destiny, Create Eternity.
    Ein Sof.
     http://www.lynchphoto.com/islamabad.html
 
    http://www.lynchphoto.com/islamabad.html
    
    The closer a person lives to Ein Sof the creator, anything becomes passable. 
    
    Like being able to melt matter at 3K degrees kelvin to fuel the vapor of life 
    that will last for an eternity. 
    In turn, the father away from the creator a person lives, the more their minds 
    are clouded with what they think they know. 
    Losing sight of the beauty of this place.
    
    The left brain of Science will not be happy until they have an equation to 
    totally describe a sunset. 
    The right brain of Religion is happy with the grandeur of the colors, clouds, 
    and things in a sunset. 
    Skeptics struggles to reach to understand the moment, and BLeavers peacefully 
    embraces the moment. 
    Science wants to control the moment, and Religion wants the moment to never 
    come.
    
    Please pardon my ramble. I KnoWell that you asked me just for the time of 
    day, and I told you how to make the watch.
    
    Best wishes,
    Dave
idnet at att.net wrote:
    Thanks.
    
    How do you define the terms "science" and "religion" in 
    this equation?
    
    John
-------------- Original message from David Lynch <dnl1960 at yahoo.com>: --------------
    John,
    
    I appreciate your response.
    
    When the philosopher Hegel wrote his first book, critics scorned his work 
    calling it confusing. 
    Hegel responded to his objectors by saying, if you are not confused, you are 
    not learning. 
    
    Look back to grade school. When you first were shown a square root symbol, 
    did you understand its function? 
    Of course not. Only after an instructor taught you a method did the symbol 
    make sense. 
    
    Same goes for the KnoWell. Watching me draw a KnoWell would squelch most of 
    the confusion. 
    Opening the door for rational questions. Exposing the complexity that comes 
    out when you see its simplicity.
    
    Let me try to explain the equation. Can you find the Socrates quote, "All 
    that I Know is that I Know Nothing." in the KnoWell at the below link? 
    
    It forms the foundation to the logic of the KnoWell.
     http://www.lynchphoto.com/avignon.html
 
    http://www.lynchphoto.com/avignon.html
    
    "All that I Know" is on the red History side that is the realm of 
    Science and "I Know Nothing" is on the blue future side that is 
    the realm of Religion. 
    If you follow the red history and blue future lines upward, they come together 
    at the top under a one half blue and one half red m that represents the moment.
    That is just under the half blue and half red infinity symbol. Indicating 
    that at the moment the future is in the past and the past is in the future.
    
    At the bottom of the red history leg is a red lower case c to represent that 
    history is running away at the speed of light in a stream of particle photons. 
    
    At the bottom of the blue future leg there is a blue lowercase c representing 
    that the future is collapsing in at the speed of light in the form of super 
    string waves. 
    
    Convert the m at the top from moment to mass and you have Einstein's equation 
    in the form of energy equals "cmc" 
    Particle, alpha, photon to the left and wave, omega, photon to the right. 
    Thus you you can read the symbol as... 
    KnoWell, i, Split the photon..... The i is laying on its side as the central 
    Newtonian line.
    
    The central line that has a red -1 out to the left with birth and antiquity, 
    with a blue 1+ to the right with death and eternity. 
    This is where Newton's third law comes into play. Except the KnoWell adds 
    a third state. Life... I explain this in more detail in the Hutchison link.
    http://www.lynchphoto.com/hutchison.html
    
    Maybe I have only confused you more. If so I apologize for the interruption 
    to your day. 
    To clear the air, I would be more than willing to sit down with you and draw 
    a KnoWell. To answer any questions that arise. 
    
    I hope to one day create a short five minute video of me drawing a KnoWell. 
    To put it on YouTube. 
    That will give people the needed information to connect the logical dots in 
    the KnoWell.. 
    Thus forever changing the way the world sees science and religion in relation 
    to the fleeting moment of time....
    
    Best wishes,
    Dave
idnet at att.net wrote:
    David,
    
    I am confused. I went to the web site for the equation, but could not find 
    it.
    
    John
-------------- Original message from David Lynch <dnl1960 at yahoo.com>: --------------
    John,
    
    Your thoughts on my letter to the Discovery Institute are most welcome.
    
    Laters,
    Dave
David Lynch <dnl1960 at yahoo.com> wrote:
    Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:12:32 -0800 (PST)
    From: David Lynch <dnl1960 at yahoo.com>
    Subject: Foveon's "silicon eye"
    To: "Robert L. Crowther" <rob at discovery.org>
    CC: "Jessica M. Liddle" <jessical at discovery.org>, 
    "Kelley J. Unger" <kunger at discovery.org>, 
    Matt Rosenberg <mattr at discovery.org>
    Robert,
    
    Please pardon my interruption into your busy day. 
    
    A long strange series of coin incidences have lead me to you. More specifically 
    what brings me to the Discovery Institute is the movie called a flock of dodos. 
    
    The presentation clearly makes the point that birds of a feather flock together.
    
    Be the bird that of Science or Religion, each group of creatures tend to stand 
    together no matter what new information is presented.
    The more one ruffles the feathers, the more fundamental Science and the more 
    extreme Religion reacts to concepts outside their knowledge base.
    
    When Mary Shelly wrote Frankenstein, a woman could not publish a book. In 
    her time, the thought of using body parts from the dead was heretical. 
    As time passed, technology granted us the ability to place dead body parts 
    in the dying. Today the use of body parts is an expectation. 
    
    With the utmost respect to Mary Shelly, I am about to present to you a concept 
    that fits the Frankenstein, heretical, normal, expectation model. 
    An idea that is outside the reach of Science and beyond the grasp of Religion. 
    
    
    Using the logic of Socrates, the force of Newton, and the energy of Einstein, 
    I have created an equation for a moment of time. 
    I call the equation a KnoWell. It is beyond the reach of Science and outside 
    the grasp of Religion. 
     http://www.lynchphoto.com/avignon.html
 
    http://www.lynchphoto.com/avignon.html
    
    The complexity of the above simple equation was derived from the below base 
    artistic expression.
     
 
    
    http://www.lynchphoto.com/elohim.html
    
    Like Mary Shelly, most likely my concept will not be realized until long after 
    I am dead. The KnoWell will bridge the gap between Science and Religion. 
    It just may not do it before we pilfer our resources, heat up our atmosphere, 
    and end life as we know it. 
    Forcing us to genetically alter our species into one of those ETs that people 
    report seeing. 
    Could be like Mary Shelly, people are seeing the future human race as an ET...
    
    How could Science be so wrong? The mistake is simple. Since Big Bang and Evolution 
    are outside the reach of 
    the Scientific process of a hypothesis, an experiment, a data set, and a conclusion, 
    Science has turned to mathematics to fill in the gaps. 
    Ego has them so confident in their findings, but there is just one simple 
    mistake. As their tool of discovery. 
    they chose to use the number line with a zero smack dab in the middle.
    
    Since the universe is made of atoms, the zero state cannot be reached. There 
    is "no" nothing. 
    To complicate the matter, pun intended, the ends of the number line has infinities. 
    
    Again since the universe is made of atoms, there cannot be an infinite anything. 
    
    
    Above are the two simple mistakes that have lead the "equationist" 
    using their silicon eyes to the BLeaf of a black hole on the negative infinity 
    side, 
    a white hole on the positive infinity side, and a big bang at the zero. Below 
    I try to explain this concept to a leading physicist.
    http://www.lynchphoto.com/bars.html
    
    In the above link, I explain how Einstein's energy equation, ((T(+l+w+h)c^2), 
    
    would be written in relation to the KnoWell. (((P(+l+w+h)c)*((F(-L-W-H)c) 
    .. 
    KnoWell, I, Split the photon. Particle on the left, and Wave on the right. 
    
    Below is a letter to John Hutchison using the KnoWell to describe his levitation 
    effect to him.. 
    He says, "thank you this could be..." Keywords This Could Be.
    http://www.lynchphoto.com/hutchison.html
    
    Since birds of a feather are clocking so close together, I must learn to live 
    with the ridicule of Science and the threats of Religion. 
    So that my equation has a chance to survive, I have given out hundreds maybe 
    a thousand copies to people. 
    Below is a small list of those that have a hand drawn KnoWell. 
    http://www.lynchphoto.com/gifts.html
    
    I respect greatly what your mission statement says you are trying to do.. 
    May we stand together an change the world.
    
    Thank you,
    David Noel Lynch